Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: weird issue lib/lib64 with Suse Date: 29 Oct 2026 19:32:25 GMT Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <11bs0o2$25amr$1@dont-email.me> <11bs21c$24k82$4@dont-email.me> <11bs8qa$27fnv$1@dont-email.me> <18e2bba0e4f0de37$21304$2524796$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <11btngi$2ojn1$3@kst.eternal-september.org> <18e2d099a9b45b7d$1051$3179723$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <11bu0f9$2rgo2$3@kst.eternal-september.org> <18e2d74b8356b8c2$459$2744292$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net a0YLQ3oceb7s/i4dK4C5ggzjRX/LYd8Hcj8IBiaRtcWPmfXbf7 Cancel-Lock: sha1:mwF/v34EUxCPzE4t/2q4HfeOhe4= sha256:uKlRvrjctICQ3fkDLaWDQTmlBQjhy5jmkvbf41wDjdo= User-Agent: Pan/0.165 (Kostiantynivka) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:94779 On 29 Oct 2026 16:48:49 GMT, Robert Riches wrote: > On 2026-10-29, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2026 00:05:20 +0000, Leroy H wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2026 16:28:41 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote: >>> >>> >>>> If you think Ubuntu, Canonical, or any other entity has authority >>>> over what I do on hardware that I personally own, I'd love to hear >>>> your reasoning. I'm curious where you got this odd idea. >>>> >>>> >>> They have chosen for you both systemd and wayland and you are >>> essentially powerless to refuse. >> >> MX Linux allows me to select either Wayland or X11 at login and to set >> the boot options to either systemd or sysVinit. > > Devuan is basically Debian with init system choice. I'm running > sysvinit and X11. I switched to X11 on the MX box. KDE Plasma 6.3.6 does better with X11 on that system. With Wayland Brave worked but was using a lot of CPU and an Amazon page would eventually crash. Firefox would crash on takeoff. Mint has an experimental Wayland session but that didn't work well either. I haven't had a problem with Wayland on Ubuntu or Fedora other than QGIS warning about potential problems with dialogs. I did leave it with systemd since I don't have a strong preference.