Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E. R." Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,uk.tech.broadcast Subject: Re: OT - TV Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2026 22:22:56 +0200 Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <118cshs$2v7m0$1@dont-email.me> <11991m3$mv9t$1@dont-email.me> <119as35$18kn0$1@dont-email.me> <119bbo8$1e3hu$1@dont-email.me> <119is9d$68cr$1@dont-email.me> <119j2qg$8pgq$1@dont-email.me> <119m338.o7c.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <119qnr6$2urls$1@dont-email.me> <119qr92$2vglb$2@dont-email.me> <119r8k4$3515t$1@dont-email.me> <119tba1$3quvc$1@dont-email.me> <11a38uf$24fks$1@dont-email.me> <11a4u79$2lnse$1@dont-email.me> <11a55g7$2nipf$4@dont-email.me> <11a5at8$2nipf$18@dont-email.me> <11a80sh$3pnm3$4@dont-email.me> <11a90dj$7ae1$1@dont-email.me> <11a9169$73vs$8@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net U+4roelBQGaHvmASG24AVwxrrs+iI10eMWlOYd7whdYNwCNCKo Cancel-Lock: sha1:onOLTAJfQGctUoOnpxm1SD+DypU= sha256:dbgi8rHfzmo716UWMkcLb7R2Tr4ji1SM5Ca6x3we/OE= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <11a9169$73vs$8@dont-email.me> Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.os.windows-11:36011 alt.comp.os.windows-10:196765 comp.os.linux.advocacy:723538 comp.os.linux.misc:93254 uk.tech.broadcast:70790 On 2026-10-08 23:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 08/10/2026 22:02, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> On 2026/10/8 13:4:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 08/10/2026 12:51, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> [someone else wrote] >>>>> Where it scores is in town where the regen braking and the ability to >>>>> run off the battery alone for stop start crawl until the battery is >>>>> depleted, when the engine cuts in to recharge the battery. >>>> >>>> Some types should do well in hilly country. >>>> >>> Only if you need to use the brakes a lot >>> >> If your journey involves about the same amount of uphill and downhill, >> and you're _not_ using the brakes, where is the downhill energy going? > > Do you really not have an answer for that? > > You are coasting. The energy goes into the drag just the same as if it > was an EV > > I do it all the time. > >> Either engine braking (which is another form of "using the brakes", but >> even worse in that it might actually use fuel), or you're accelerating >> on the downhill parts and using the speed thus gained to help you on the >> uphill - makes you a bit dangerous in the valleys. >> > No. You are coasting. On a manual in neutral, On an auto, it does it > 'automatically' (sic!) Here, if you try to coast, you crash eventually. Coasting on neutral on down slopes is strongly discouraged in driving school. Very, very dangerous. > >>>>> >>>>> Typically halving fuel used >>>>> Regen braking and no idling is the key >>>>> >>> >> > -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.