Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: OT : MAY Have To Build New House - CBC On PIERS ??? Date: 12 Sep 2026 18:58:34 GMT Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <117u1q8$1srqg$8@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net GZVEQwLxizYzmZbN5TIVPAZfZyp2f0DgJITaNpAb4MNHCqGsK7 Cancel-Lock: sha1:K/7Gck3cfJ/C6xcoG+obSRqpfFI= sha256:UkhEuH/N1RWd0KUIIh7JtcIf8ltqTAJJ8Ps+X79vI8Y= User-Agent: Pan/0.165 (Kostiantynivka) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:91328 On Sat, 12 Sep 2026 13:33:45 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > n 2026-09-12 05:49, c186282 wrote: >> On 9/11/26 05:40, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2026-09-11 07:43, c186282 wrote: >>>> On 9/10/26 06:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 10/09/2026 06:22, c186282 wrote: >>> >>> >>>>    Oh ... and WHY do people build strong stone structures and then >>>>    put a SHITTY wooden roof on them ? The roofs are always the >>>>    first thing to go, often quite early. >>> >>> You can see that even in ancient cathedrals. >>> >>> My home is built like that, too. >>> >>> Lighter than a stone roof with a stone vault. Like cathedrals. They >>> put a wooden roof with tiles on top, waterproof. >> >>   Well, BRIEFLY waterproof ....... and then you pay, over and over >>   and over ........ >> >>   Good stone/concrete roofs are heavy. You generally have to make >>   special considerations to deal with the lateral forces (unless it's >>   a FLAT roof). High arches can do it. "V" roofs can work IF you put >>   'tension struts' across the bottom of the 'V' - which may be the >>   cheapest solution. >> >>   There are a few mid-60s houses in my area with flat roofs. They >>   look a bit odd in comparison to the "usual" USA design but they're >>   STILL THERE. At worst gotta spray some tar or foam shit on top >>   every so often. Most commercial buildings use flat concrete roofs. > > Interestingly, I saw flat roofs in Ottawa. > > > And I know some supermarkets that have flat roofs here, supported by > flat wooden beams. But as there are not thick enough, long enough wooden > beams here, they pile maybe a dozen beams tied vertically with iron > girdles. They usually don't collapse :). Back in the '70s when people started worrying about the cost of heating oil there was an emphasis on improving the insulation in older buildings. The unforeseen consequence was the roof had been designed so heat loss would reduce the snow load.