Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Date: 21 Jul 2026 01:47:56 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <2dadnRI_-Lkck8H3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <6a5d55d9@news.ausics.net> <113lhdo$1aeq8$1@dont-email.me> <113lsu5$1e8tv$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net QR6CCFjMJrrQdRg+RobegAwzRq9ft7OjsbBrmFTO+Vwk1gugfF Cancel-Lock: sha1:E+MVFczsNkoXFF42cU1HLrbYKA8= sha256:bsuJs79vjEXV4MVpZYGoWVhMwA/dLWKcmSuOBe4oCy8= User-Agent: Pan/0.165 (Kostiantynivka) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:88936 On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 19:29:09 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote: > https://www.flyajetfighter.com/the-real-range-of-modern-fighter-planes/ > looks to indicate that 1000mi (1600km) starts to put a number of > warplanes at a point where they have limited engagement possibilites > unless they start out carrying extra tanks, which mean less ordinance, > before they would have to return to refuel, or return to an air tanker > to refuel -- but then the air tanker must be kept beyond harms way, > because it makes an especially juicy target as taking it out reduces a > lot of the attack capability of the war planes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_2026_Iran_war I don't know to what extent they were specifically targets but KC-135s are the second most popular things to destroy after Reapers. Reportedly 2 were an own goal. I take the list cum grano salis. I blame my cynicism on early influences. I was quite young when my grandmother listened to the radio while doing housework but I can recall the breathless reporting of how many MiGs had been shot down that day in MiG Alley. I wasn't entirely sure what a 'mig' was but I think the US shot down more MiG-15s than were ever made at the time. The NK bag for the day wasn't mentioned. I was more aware when the reports said we were winning bigly in Vietnam until we weren't. I've lost count of how many times we've put Iran in its place.