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On Mon, 6 Jul 2026 13:24:31 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2026-07-06 07:34, c186282 wrote:
>> On 7/5/26 15:07, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 13:32:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am using right now openSUSE Leap 16.0 without a problem.
>>>
>>> I replaced EndeavourOS on the Lenovo T480 with Leap 16. So far it has
>>> been trouble free without the Endeavour quirks.  I'm using KDE both on
>>> SUSE and Fedora. SUSE has older versions of the kernel, Plasma,
>>> konsole and so forth but nothing that affects me.
>>>
>>> The only snag was VirtualBox. Once again, that was an experiment after
>>> reading C123456's posts and I personally have no interest in running
>>> VB.
>>> virt-manager works fine.
>>>
>>> Python on SUSE is 3.13 versus 3.14 on Fedora and Ubuntu 26.04 but
>>> that's not a problem either. I haven't tried lately but there were
>>> some libraries that didn't support 3.14 so that initially was a bug
>>> rather than a feature.
>> 
>>    About five years ago, OSuse decided it didn't need/support lots of
>>    those olde-tyme utilities. Had lots of pgms that ran those in the
>>    background to gather/parse the output for vital systems info. In
>>    short, they SCREWED me for no good reasons at all.
>> 
>>    What's next, remove 'ls' and 'ps' and 'df' because, well, who needs
>>    to know that kind of shit anyway ? Have to hand install to get
>>    'ifconfig' now too.
> 
> You can install ifconfig trivially.

Or you can learn to us 'ip' against the dy when ifconfig hasn't been 
maintained for years and is dropped completely.