Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "J.O. Aho" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux Subject: Re: What's the best linux distro? Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:02:07 +0200 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <20210826181054.3878f85e@nx-74205> <20210826194125.32e586b0@nx-74205> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net +Ma4NwCrhfsu8H9fsIna2gp4O8bWesDPP0nsk0iUntIbZ9PKt4 Cancel-Lock: sha1:WqpGkCudEnIRXpdVHlAO7ZSbhMg= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 In-Reply-To: <20210826194125.32e586b0@nx-74205> Content-Language: en-US-large Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:32920 alt.os.linux:70766 On 26/08/2021 19.41, Aragorn wrote: > I used to be anti-systemd too, because I couldn't see its merits, and I > guess I was just jerking my knee, like so many others. (I am only > human (I think) and not above making mistakes. ;)) Sure systemd has come with some merits, but not everything has been great, as it do "eat up" other projects, which has lead to a number of serious security issues with a high exportability as it's been the pid 1 that been using them. Other init systems do handle the "benefit" that has been preached as the main reason to use systemd, the boot up time. For me from Grub to Kodi takes just 25 sec on OpenRC, would I want to monitor services, sure I could use s6 and still get the same bootup time. I do think that systemd has done a good job on possible service isolation, but it's doable on other init systems too, but requires a lot more hands on. For me, who has work quite many years with systems that had to have high security and prompt updates of high security vulnerabilities without too much impact on down time, systemd has been a bad option compared with say SysVinit. > [*] Manjaro started off as systemd-based-only, given that it's a > derivative of Arch, but it has in the past also also supported > openrc. The openrc support was however dropped a number of years > ago, which is why a fork of Manjaro was created, called Artix. Artix claims to be a based on Arch and it do use the Arch repositories and not the Manajro ones and you also notice that some packages are released faster on Artix than on Manjaro. -- //Aho