Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Tim Watts Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What distros *don't* use systemd ? Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 08:28:48 +0100 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net hz4PaNKD6hHKHXdD2OxmXwLuzVtg9z/C308no45YxjjnREo/G9 X-Orig-Path: squidward.local.dionic.net!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:VfUTFIAHtRkllqCaX+RrlX6r4CA= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:11921 On 04/09/14 07:01, Marc Haber wrote: > Stef wrote: >> Currently, yes. However, for next release, Debian 8 Jessie, due out >> next May or so, but in Beta now, systemd will be the default. Lots of >> gnashing of teeth on the Debian mail lists about that, > > Debian's Technical Committee has ruled that systemd will be the > default, but other init systems should remain possible, leaving the > choice to the user. Came across this looking up systemd on Wikipedia: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420 which was spawned from: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935 and the misuse of the "debug" kernel boot parameter. I must say it's like watching Hans Reiser at work. If that's the attitude of the systemd lead devs, I don't know why *anyone* would want to touch it, least of all debian.