Path: csiph.com!news.nrbbs.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news-out.netnews.com!s1-3.netnews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx07.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers From: Charlie Gibbs Subject: Re: what's a mainframe, NYT and Stratus (Re: [OT] Dead DEC Punch card times) References: <18dee4b6cab427fa$865$2574533$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <11cr1ub$q796$1@dont-email.me> <11creup$trgi$1@dont-email.me> <11ctde2$2ibp$1@gal.iecc.com> <5O-dnQvUAMIEF2_3nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> <11d036a$2hab5$3@dont-email.me> <11d1ngr$30p0f$3@dont-email.me> <20261111084244.000067bf@gmail.com> <11d269u$36p99$2@dont-email.me> <11d280n$37kbt$1@dont-email.me> <11d2oc8$3e1fm$3@dont-email.me> User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 21 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: https://www.astraweb.com/aup NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 03:44:53 UTC Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 03:44:53 GMT X-Received-Bytes: 2144 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:95522 alt.folklore.computers:236806 On 2026-11-11, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > The later VT200 series were nice and sleek and all that, but I felt > they were a step backwards in one respect: press the “SET-UP” key, and > it took perceptibly longer to switch to the setup menu than the old > VT100 did -- that was instant. I assume the older model had some > double-buffering display hardware support which was dropped from the > newer range ... It was a step backwards in another respect too: it indulged in the same sort of keyboard layout shenanigans as the IBM PC. I refused to touch one for that reason. It took the industry at least 10 years to recover from the silliness that the IBM PC keyboard layout inflicted on it. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.