Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Tim Watts Newsgroups: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,uk.d-i-y Subject: Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 16:10:48 +0000 Lines: 64 Message-ID: <8dnjsb-v2n.ln1@squidward.dionic.net> References: <6dkjsb-val.ln1@squidward.dionic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net YzoOym1loWkYOrhRaUJqTgtkjbblDjLHbpArHcQ6nelpBoygXJ X-Orig-Path: squidward.dionic.net!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:tGAsM6k6nYlpOmDg78IP/4qG2gM= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:13886 On 04/03/15 15:54, Theo Markettos wrote: > In uk.comp.os.linux Tim Watts wrote: >> On 04/03/15 15:10, HarpingOn wrote: >> >>> I use Open Media Vault on a HP Microserver. >> >> That's interesting - I have not come across that. I will spin that up on >> a virtual machine and see who it works - if it does, I can probably >> cherry pick the bit I want and shove it onto my existing Debian server >> (which coincidently runs on an HP Micro Server!). > > What's interesting about OMV in regards to this discussion? It looks like > A.N.Other NAS Linux distro. I can't see anything there that handles offline > files, which is the critical part of the problem. I was assuming they had a tuned WebDav server instance - that might be worth ripping off as it's probably only going to be an apache config. I was hoping that there might be a client that could handle the caching - though without certain explicit server support it may not be very efficient. > > There is an OpenAFS FUSE client, so that could work for Android, Mac, etc > though it's still experimental (no write support). And no pretty GUI. Hmm... > Very interesting thread, BTW - I have exactly the same problems... Thank you - I am surprised it's only the two of us though. Perhaps others are less picky? The commercial guys clearly see a LOT of milage in this. However, even Tonido came back to me and said their Enterprise FileCloud (that costs $$$$) can only handle NTFS user file perms and ownership - POSIX may happen in the future. I have seen this moment before, at least twice: 1) The great MS office desert - if you were on linux/BSD and everyone else was throwing Word files around. It was a long time before something better than "strings" came along and it was largely thanks to Sun. 2) Email. There was a very dark time in the late 90's/early 00's when we had a piss poor IMAP server (WU-IMAPd) and very ropey client support. Then Thunderbird got its act together and Timo knocked out dovecot and all because sane again. SMTP was less of a problem even before Philip Hazel as sendmail works, even though it had a config from hell. It does seem like many of the great solutions are down to one person, Linus, Timo, Philip. It can take a while for the momentum to roll. In some cases, a great project simply sits at risk of dying. case in point: MoSH - https://mosh.mit.edu/ - I use it all the time - it is fantastic when you have a tethered internet connection with the IP changing all the time. However, it has not gained much traction and even though adding new features like tunnels has been mooted, noone wants to do it and I expect the original guys are off doing other interesting stuff.