Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!enother.net!enother.net!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.gcicommunications!news.posted.gcicommunications.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:51:32 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: White Noise Software For Linux References: <0eb566bb-5d54-47fd-b24a-53b85abda9ed@googlegroups.com> <87bnqar2p0.fld@barrow.com> <87zjdroxci.fld@barrow.com> From: floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) Organization: __________ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:51:27 -0800 Message-ID: <87vboepq34.fld@barrow.com> User-Agent: gnus 5.10.6/XEmacs 21.4.15/Linux 2.6.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:LTAkVN8hJ+LHYa60bz0RhBgor8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 72 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.237.125.254 X-Trace: sv3-kA7VNeRebBpG+utDCRrNEOO/H9pPkIKYBnzN3xLp+mH4DVRVGIOwz9YBTg+NWD6WRlWdSoYUJpUai3R!uslmo2YI3qGU0GbXX4/X+VfgWG/Ycs4t4L8LrDL9ZialqlHCTyq7JxUXLdg9ezoG3C5S94Xc X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3968 X-Received-Bytes: 4080 X-Received-Body-CRC: 561379118 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:12150 Michael Black wrote: >On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Floyd L. Davidson wrote: > >> William Unruh wrote: >>> On 2014-09-20, Floyd L. Davidson wrote: >>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 20/09/14 07:39, William Unruh wrote: >>>>>> On 2014-09-19, beforewisdom@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> I'm running Linux Mint 17. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anyone recommend any white noise software that is controlled by a GUI? >>>>>> >>>>>> Wha is White noise sofware tha is controlled by a gui? White noise has >>>>>> only one controllable parameter and that is ampliude, and tha is >>>>>> conrollable by the volume control. >>>>>> I think you need o be a bit less elliptical. >>>>> Thnks for sayung that. saved me the trouble >>>> >>>> White noise is not restricted to just one controllable parameter. >>>> >>>> Distribution is controllable, hence it might be Gaussian or Poisson, or >>>> something else. >>> >>> Then it is not white noise. It may be noise, but white noise has a very >>> particular definition >> >> Look it up though, and you'll find "Gaussian White Noise"... and other >> distributions too. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_noise#Statistical_properties >> >>>> It is also always bandwidth limited, which is controllable too. >>> >>> Again, not white noise. >> >> It is impossible to have a signal that is not bandwidth limited. >> Real life just doesn't work that way. >> >That's true, but it is based on the method used to generate the noise. >And you can get "reasonably close" so long as you use a >method appropriate for the need. Any "method appropriate" means it is in fact bandwidth limited. The bandwidth is simply controlled at something larger than the perceived need. >Like I said, a pseudo-random number generator using a >shift register with proper feedback clocked at a high >enough frequency can generate "white noise" good enough >for audio purposes. Is by definition bandwidth limited. Goot enouogh for audio means that it is extremely limited! >And then you filter it properly if >you want "pink noise" which is more suited for some testing purposes. > >But once you filter, it's not white, it's something else. That depends on the filter. In your example the initial filter doesn't stop it from being white noise, but certainly filtering to produce pink noise does. >The limits of generation are a different thing. Not at all. It's just another filter. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/ Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@apaflo.com