Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn Wheeler Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.shell,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: NYT and Stratus (Re: [OT] Dead DEC Punch card times) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2026 08:11:28 -1000 Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 58 Message-ID: <87se1bp50v.fsf@localhost> References: <18dee4b6cab427fa$865$2574533$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <11cdg33$47sq$1@dont-email.me> <11cdp6v$1qa8$3@gal.iecc.com> <875wy85ba3.fsf@localhost> <11cpv8t$c3gs$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2026 18:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="617282"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18OXKe+ouz3V0Emwc6qC7CY76mEg9CeD1Q="; posting-host="98d7c4ad43b3a6b29b8871fe584fafd4" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UIHmkQ+t31TXUQqGaiDbkWhwUxs= sha1:s12XZo5Es7SbTrZbLNTdrGcMJX0= sha256:h9QkbsxPUHRYKu8EJ0f0sJvlHDaDcqGRd7aooDa2IhI= sha1:cl494o4DUhPS3QY31J1jkzVkQY4= sha256:h3df2Lk4u0S80Lh4ASgBS+VYKKJzSPkgiwkL2lA7uEg= Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:95352 comp.unix.shell:27342 alt.folklore.computers:236668 Lars Poulsen writes: > Around 2001, my group had developed a T1-over-UDP-over-Ethernet bridge > to use in tandem with our wireless ethernet bridge product. After we > spun out from WiLan, and became Afar, we also marketed it > separately. Our largest sale was to NYT, to replace the dual T1 lines > they had to their (16?) regional printing plants, connected to the > phototypesetters in the print shops. At 42nd street they had a rack > with 60(?) of our boxes. While they wanted the two lines for each > remote site to be on separate boxes connected to separate IP networks, > two lines to different sites could share one of our units, which had > two T1 jacks. > > System worked well; I once got to visit the Old Lady shortly before > they moved down the street. early 80s, I got HSDT project, T1 and faster computer links (both terrestrial and satellite) and battles with SNA group (60s, IBM had 2701 supporting T1, 70s with SNA/VTAM and issues, links were capped at 56kbit ... and I had to mostly resort to non-IBM hardware). Mid-80s, communication group was also fighting off release of mainframe TCP/IP support and when that failed, they said that since they had corporate responsibility for everything that crossed datacenter walls, it had to be release through them. I then add RFC1044 and in some tuning tests at Cray Research between a Cray and 4341, got sustained 4341 channel throughput using only modest amount of 4341 CPU (something like 500 times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed). HSDT also was working with NSF director and was suppose to get $20M to interconnect the NSF Supercomputer centers. NSF gave grant to Univ. Cal to build Berkeley supercomputer center and I was asked to give them talks on the interconnect. Turns out regents had san diego getting the next new bldg ... and it became the San Diego Supercomputer center instead. Then congress cuts the budget, some other things happened and eventually there was RFP released (in part based on what we already had running). NSF 28Mar1986 Preliminary Announcement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260311074443/https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#12 The OASC has initiated three programs: The Supercomputer Centers Program to provide Supercomputer cycles; the New Technologies Program to foster new supercomputer software and hardware developments; and the Networking Program to build a National Supercomputer Access Network - NSFnet. IBM internal politics was not allowing us to bid. The NSF director tried to help by writing the company a letter (3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO) with support from other gov. agencies ... but that just made the internal politics worse (as did claims that what we already had operational was at least 5yrs ahead of the winning bid), as regional networks connect in, NSFnet becomes the NSFNET backbone, precursor to modern internet ... aka NCSA ... grant for new "supercomputer software" https://www.ncsa.illinois.edu/ -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970