Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!news.datemas.de!not-for-mail From: (Nuno Silva) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Why are mkisofs ISO's so large? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 00:05:29 +0200 Organization: Datemas.de http://www.news.datemas.de Lines: 43 Message-ID: <87fvzlepqu.fsf@invalid.invalid> References: <20130323150605@news.eternal-september.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: news.datemas.de uy3JnrJj31hkONrQYhI1fFSWdmDEvXsu9dtnUOe32s03ha4MHAkkGJpcxULn4xOgPcGDYGB5Sy6risGPKcHcGMX2f0DCOylxGz9L4hcGopAvFQbYJqBrgbnn3vHMpogYaOL2r9wtbyVf3eXWY6Jfyrzuo9uKNQ1CphM1spAX6D8= X-Complaints-To: abuse@datemas.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PzZMt/oYReEJw201Q/up/mx53as= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:7601 On 2013-03-23, Roger Blake wrote: > On 2013-03-23, Dan Espen wrote: >> Sorry, didn't see that. Maybe you could re-post it so we can >> see how many variables were controlled for. > > After installing Ubuntu Linux a few years ago (I don't recall the > version) I wound up burning a lot of coasters. Poking around the system I > discovered there was some thing called "wodim" installed instead of the > "cdrecord" that I had come to expect. So I downloaded and installed > cdrtools and the problem went away. (Same burner, same package of discs, > same source material.) > > This is obviously anecdotal and not a statistically valid sample, but > as the saying goes "it works for me." Since having that experience, > with each subsequent update to a new version of Linux (currently Xubuntu > 12.04), I download and install cdrtools as a matter of course. It's a datapoint. It's not anecdotal. There is something broken in Debian's CD burning software, and I'm not sure what it is. I'd guess it has to do with how different drives deal with burning. I don't recall exactly, but I think I also got *positive* results. Hardware *is* in the mix, because Debian's tools seem to be unable to work with a set of optical burners. Joerg's mention of the media size would make sense. I am also used to see a lot of "drive returns wrong startsec, using ..." (sic?) when using cdrtools. That has always made me wonder if Debian's incarnation is using the wrong value. (A childish assumption, as there are so many other things that may go wrong.) Anyone knows what is the upstream's opinion on these issues? > As I've said, I really don't know or care about the politics and > personalities involved in the dispute between Debian and Mr. Schilling. > I just prefer to use what I have found to work best. (Of course your mileage > may vary.) -- Nuno Silva (aka njsg) http://njsg.sdf-eu.org/