Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mark Carroll Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.debian Subject: Re: Product LockIn Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:14:28 +0100 Organization: none Lines: 49 Message-ID: <874mbrg7wr.fsf@ixod.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="1b3e5cba9e4d07a53741e6f3d1717925"; logging-data="15053"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/0IvPUOvN7B/JcTQqHdabl" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6bgcs/8Kb+HCdu8+z4Vb0F4Fyqc= sha1:YPivDlcW4igxM4Q8WJZnKpFeXr4= Xref: csiph.com alt.os.linux.slackware:26553 comp.os.linux.misc:17117 alt.os.linux.debian:7963 On 27 Mar 2016, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 27/03/16 15:45, Bit Twister wrote: (snip) >> I can not prove that offhand, but I believe there is a fetchmail >> option to have the mail remain on the server or not, your choice in >> the fetchmail config file. Yes, it's what keep/nokeep is about? > Not with IMAP. The whole point of IMAP is that all the clients synch to > a single online server space. You're sure of that? My memory of fetchmail is that it can delete them from IMAP just fine on download and a look at the current docs seems to confirm that. I even find threads from fetchmail users who are unhappy that it is deleting their IMAP-accessed mail from the server! > "IMAP was designed with the goal of permitting complete management of an > email box by multiple email clients, Therefore, clients generally leave > messages on the server until the user explicitly deletes them" "Generally". For instance I grab my mail via IMAP using Gnus with (setq mail-source-delete-incoming t) and that works just fine to delete them. > POP is a 'store till I download' protocol. Imap is not. IMAP is very flexible. (snip) >> Replying or sending in that methodology no longer works because my >> mail is being rejected because reverse dns look up fails because my MTA >> is not in a registered domain or some such thing. > > MMm. you need a smart host then. Absolutely. > Oddly enough, getting a virtual private server for a fistful of dollars, > and a small fist at that - is no big deal and is probably te easiest way > to have your own domain and email setup entirely under your control, > independent from any ISP, and accessible how you want and where you want. That's exactly what I do, but it's not for those who don't want to learn how to configure and maintain a mailserver. It's easy not to notice you messed things up and can cause real problems if you did. -- Mark