Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Tim Watts Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: How do home users of linux protect themselves against ill-advised changes? Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 15:06:44 +0000 Lines: 47 Message-ID: <4h1onb-kih.ln1@squidward.dionic.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net gkUO0KPiRa/geqCfdtt4AALGxWyRfXBOZY98BcAo72KIywoKyF X-Orig-Path: squidward.dionic.net!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:aSDuQKqYqyQYtpomS35pPy3fTMA= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:13210 On 04/01/15 14:29, Robert Heller wrote: > At Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:00:29 +0000 Tim Watts wrote: > >> >> On 04/01/15 13:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 04/01/15 12:16, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>>> Jeremy Nicoll - news posts >>>> writes: >>>>> How do home users of linux protect themselves against ill-advised >>>>> changes? >>>>> >>>>> What I mean is, if they install patches or some package whose >>>>> configuration screws things up, and they then can't boot - what then? >>>> >>>> Restore from backup. >>>> >>> The question is pretty carzy to start with. >>> >>> Packages - unless they mess with the kernel/drivers - don't stop the >>> thing booting. >> >> Buggering up libc? >> >> Or as I had with ubuntu + ZFS, deciding the hostid was broken (it was >> null) and refusing to mount any ZFS volumes. > > Well, ZFS is not the default file system. Most naive users will be using > someting safe like ext4 and are unlikely to bugger up libc. See my other post > about 'developers and gurus' possibly messing with non-standard or bleeding > edge packages. True about ZFS - it is an option. However, the original statement was: "Packages - unless they mess with the kernel/drivers - don't stop the thing booting." Which I trivially refuted with: "Buggering up libc?". It's unlikely a good distro running with STABLE repos will bugger up libc but it remains a possibility. Feck all use booting a kernel if you can't get userland off the ground...