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From: John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Back To CS Basics. Fuck AI
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 10:04:37 -0700
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 09:13:29 -0000 (UTC)
Tapiro Ubriaco <interwebs.dude@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I don't have to "believe" anything here; the fact that mathematics
> > is innately complete and inherent to reality is self-demonstrating,
> > as any child who's ever learned to count should know. Have two, get
> > two, have four - that's addition, and it was so before the very
> > first hominid who stopped to *think* about the number of tasty bits
> > of fruit and game in his private cache.  
> 
> Then again, it's self evident that the inner angles of a triangle
> always sum up to a straight angle.
> 
> Any child who has tried to cut a triangle out of a sheet of paper,
> and then cut the angles and lay them adjacent to one another should
> know.
> 
> A more adventurous child might have tried to do that with a triangle
> drawn on an orange, or a balloon... and found out they don't
> necessarily add up :-)
> 
> That child would have then found out the need to systematise geometry
> and distinguish between Euclidean and non-Euclidean geometries with
> their axioms and rules of inference...  :-) 

Sure - but this is also discoverable, as your own example shows. It's
certainly quicker and easier to learn from someone who already knows,
but it's *possible* to work this stuff out independently.