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On 20 Oct 2026 18:26:11 GMT
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> > How come the instruments have fixed notes, and these appeared very
> > very long ago? before the theory was developed formally?
> > 
> > Google says the western notes appeared between 6th and 11th
> > centuries.
> > 
> > They had to know some theory.  
> 
> What theory did the East Asians use?

Per a brief survey of Wikipedia, the particulars are unclear (the
oldest indicated text, the Classic of Music, was probably lost in Qin
Shi Huang's Ye Olde Cultural Revolution, though fragments have been
preserved in later works,) but the guqin goes back a good 3000 years,
and uses a scale based on the harmonic series - something akin to
Pythagorean tuning, if I'm understanding correctly.