Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Back To CS Basics. Fuck AI Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 14:48:43 -0700 Organization: A place where nothing fits quite right Lines: 44 Message-ID: <20261016144843.00000c40@gmail.com> References: <18dee4b6cab427fa$865$2574533$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <87ik32455m.fsf@solcaium.us> <11asf08$31lan$1@dont-email.me> <11asopt$33n8m$8@dont-email.me> <11asq8f$31lan$6@dont-email.me> <11astpf$33n8m$23@dont-email.me> <11at0ld$31lan$13@dont-email.me> <11at39s$33n8m$36@dont-email.me> <11at4hq$31lan$18@dont-email.me> <11atave$3bqcl$1@dont-email.me> <11atdrd$31lan$25@dont-email.me> <11atgrt$3bqcl$14@dont-email.me> <11atsb5$3edcf$1@dont-email.me> <11au3uo$3k12p$14@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 21:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="3783122"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX185aKphcMDBCNKrpn/KAXmNvy+bNQBA0WE="; posting-host="9899cba4a6825138051573d003b616a6" Cancel-Lock: sha1:a8un9nuCfSyacPSxSLxwgAP0cWY= sha256:t1ecHMISmY2HHuVxFkYiQiauhixk/kBqveu9WYqTlms= sha1:ZR3Lp7xR7eLoTtSmOpPGrO0nAEA= sha256:/dedNKg4Ve75SkXVAxD4/Vnw3Q1ga+okHPd4ra74OHE= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:93931 On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 22:11:52 +0100 The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > - Transpose on the fly (say, because the singer is having a rough > > time with the original key) > > That isnt exatly hard This is a genuinely hilarious take. "It's just moving things up or down the scale, how hard can it be!?" (glances over at a keyboard instrument where 5/12ths of the keys in the octave have a completely different profile from and are actually raised above and set back from the rest) (takes a gander at the fingering charts for woodwinds) *Honestly.* Even playing guitar with a capo takes some adjustment. > > - Communicate with, and conduct, other musicians > > not much of an issue if its only 3 others This is *also* immensely funny to anyone who's ever played with a new group for the first time. Good *gravy.* > > That does not happen note for note (not if you want to keep the > > gig!), but rather... well, you know the famous scene from Back to > > the Future, right? > > > > "This is a 12-bar blues in B, watch me for the changes!" > > > > That works if the other musicians are familiar with the 12-bar > > blues form, with the appropriate chords, scales, etc. > > Which they will be, or they wont be in the band at all ...and that knowledge, whether they got it at Juilliard, off Wikipedia, or from the old blind bluesman on the street corner, is part of what makes up music theory. Neither the fact that we were doing this stuff for ages before someone put a name to it nor the fact that not every system employed in discussing it is absolute and complete changes the fact that it's all talking about the same things.