Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Tim Watts Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Cloud hosting - good groups or forums? Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 11:11:45 +0100 Lines: 32 Message-ID: <1kn03c-ck4.ln1@squidward.dionic.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net sp7B5fyD8oRril2uY7L2aAJ+mWx9nf05Stn7n9JsKTP0DkAiLy X-Orig-Path: squidward.dionic.net!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:lQM/bk2y+7iW5KHS6AEwicgqsYI= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:14823 On 19/05/15 21:53, Tim Watts wrote: > I have tried and failed to find a very general VM/cloud forum/group > covering the UK and/or the EU to bat some ideas around and I suspect > this is not the place to get specific. Does not have to be VMWare > centric... > I learnt something yesterday - If we went cloud, the terminology seems to be "virtual datacentre" or "virtual infrastructure". Had a very informed chat with one of the smaller London based providers and they use VMWare vCloud to allow multi-tenancy (another buzzword) on a large physical cluster. It seems that each "tenant" gets what they perceive to be a personal VMWare virtual cluster and they can treat it as they like and manage it more or less as a real VMWare cluster, minus the hardware aggravations. Firewalling is achieved at the hypervisor level using vShield Edge to give a customer managed border firewall. It's still sodding expensive, but at least it defines what I want (at least in functionality) from a cloud provider. Therefore I can at least get some quotes on an equal and informed footing for that particular solution. And it does not require a custom build as one of the bigger hosting companies offered (eg "You need firewalling? OK, we can add in a physical box, extra dosh, consultancy fees etc"...)