Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thad Floryan Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware Subject: Re: HP2000 AMD laptop Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 12:41:21 -0800 Organization: ThadLABS Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5276B4F1.50902@thadlabs.com> References: <20131103143804@news.eternal-september.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="8c9e5db8d01ced79e92159efa406567d"; logging-data="8969"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19AvGmPE4FOUCdGAsgQQMGZcNApSPvsgd4=" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) In-Reply-To: <20131103143804@news.eternal-september.org> Cancel-Lock: sha1:OunkttjtntSoY/wMp5yOsR2v6mA= Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.hardware:2117 On 11/3/2013 11:40 AM, Roger Blake wrote: > On 2013-11-03, notbob wrote: >> Well, thanks for the brief history lesson, Michael, but I knew all >> that, having once worked in the heart of Silly Vlly. What I wanted >> was some insight to whether or not their products (from the computer >> side) are worth a damn, anymore. > > From what I have seen, HP's consumer line is junk, but they have some decent > products in their business line. That's true for Dell (and very likely others) too. For example, a Dell Inspiron is consumer-class but a Dell Latitude is business-class and there's a big difference in quality and product longevity. My three Dell Latitude C610 circa 2002 are still running perfectly today as is my Dell Latitude D600 circa 2004. HP's consumer-class products are basically junk and generally have flaky motherboards plagued with MLCC (multi-layer ceramic capacitor) problems. Their business product line is a world-apart which is why I have two HP dc5850 and HP dc7900 small-form-factor desktops running CentOS, OpenIndiana (Solaris 11), and FreeBSD. Thad