Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: vallor Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Date: 24 Apr 2025 20:35:53 GMT Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net lVqIOStO6Ne0ZaLBU/v96gA4dzrgClNfgVjKQ2oRhNdfPXUyOC Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZvkPN03U4i7ypVKBU9BwUaJaJbE= sha256:dmr5WVXRfizF56eqN9K6SrQ9l4cx0VlvlQAaQ+esQa0= X-Face: +McU)#<-H?9lTb(Th!zR`EpVrp<0)1p5CmPu.kOscy8LRp_\u`:tW;dxPo./(fCl CaKku`)]}.V/"6rISCIDP` User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Hmm4; 1fd2c25b; Linux-6.14.3) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:689431 On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 13:31:51 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote in : > On 2025-04-24, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-04-23, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> >>> By GNOME 50 next year upstream could completely remove its X11 session >>> support. >> >> Fortunately I can choose something NOT Fedora. If they go through with this, >> adios Fedora on the laptop I never use. >> >> Non-problem solved. >> > This was one of the reasons I left Fedora and went to Debian. I had > been tired of the frequent release cycle, and some of the politics, but > the fact they would be earlier than other distros in deprecating X11 > pushed me to Debian. Nothing against Wayland per-se, but it breaks some > X applications, and my Window Manager. > > The "developers" today are terrible, constantly breaking everything all > the time. How they feel it is acceptable to constantly break peoples > workflows is beyond me. Sheer arrogance. I stopped using Fedora when they were removing code from openssl for which they claimed they weren't sure about a patent incumberance. It wasn't just flags in the SRPM that disabled elliptical-curve crypto, they actually took the code for ECC out of openssl. I jumped ship to Linux Mint, and I'm much happier for it. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.14.3 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G "Don't judge a book by its mini-series."