Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: vallor Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Linux 6.13.7 Date: 15 Mar 2025 11:36:07 GMT Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <182ca48b6c299c15$32886$5317$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ZXvHlcF7satMBC2yRIqIPQuJy3ODlBUcJvTb3AIwS9K94qXry+ Cancel-Lock: sha1:WiZgORJmJIQKiHqvOS6+F1Pw6aA= sha256:PgJZnNoEiIp+eo5V0MtGN5M8rmsPdEvL4cMSZMK5NL4= X-Face: +McU)#<-H?9lTb(Th!zR`EpVrp<0)1p5CmPu.kOscy8LRp_\u`:tW;dxPo./(fCl CaKku`)]}.V/"6rISCIDP` User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Hmm4; 0a913ba3; Linux-6.14.0-rc6) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:687483 On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:53:42 +0000, Farley Flud wrote in : > On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 16:26:28 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote: > > >> Hm.. ? I have almost identical machines, one with SSD and the other >> with HD, same RAM (12 gigs). The one with SSD is noticeably faster than >> the other. >> >> > Only for file loading/saving. On my machines the Iron browser, which is > based on the severely bloated Chrome, takes almost 10 seconds to load > and start. With SSD this would be a lot faster. > > But for program execution and computation overall, SSDs have no effect. > > As I stated many times before, I do not use SSDs because the available > consumer technology is garbage. Consumer SSDs degrade very rapidly and > require technical "tricks" to give an illusion of durability. > > Ironically, to keep a record of failed and useless storage bits, > consumer SSDs will incorporate a very small amount of high-grade and > essentially permanent memory cells. Only when the entire SSD is > composed of such permanent memory will I make the switch. You know, if you don't trust NVMe, you _could_ just make sure you have good backups, and even use RAID. I have a confession to make: I have my own "spinning rust" drives. They are 7200RPM SATA III drives in my NAS in a RAID5 configuration. I put backups there, as well as on a 4TB USB3 NVMe enclosure. The latter I use for timeshift, as well as serving it via Samba as a time machine device for our Mac. That all eventually ends up on the NAS, connected to my w/s with 10Gbit Ethernet. But when I fire up my space simulator, that runs off an NVMe drive, as well as all the assets it uses, including the Vulkan (pre-compiled) shaders. This is very fast. As I've said before, the persistent writes for that system are "in the cloud", where I imagine the storage environment is much different. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.14.0-rc6 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G "Don't be so humble, you're not that great. -Golda Meir"