Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.alt.net!not-for-mail From: owl Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: OT: A *truly* presidential response Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 19:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Organization: O.W.L. Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: boom.rooftop.invalid User-Agent: tin/2.2.1-20140504 ("Tober an Righ") (UNIX) (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64 (x86_64)) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:330715 Snit wrote: > On 11/3/15, 10:52 AM, in article fhsnvue93.a0@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > wrote: > >>>> And I'm just looking at this from the perspective of my area, where >>>> $2,000,000 buys a huge-ass house. That's average house price in some >>>> markets. Hell, when we were buying we watched a lot of HGTV and >>>> were amazed at these young couples fresh out of college shopping >>>> in the 800-900,000 range. >>>> >>> >>> You have dodged the initial point: why should I or you help someone buy a >>> multimillion dollar home? Why should we give people who do so any special >>> entitlements? Why should we give ANY home owner special entitlements? And I >>> ask this as a home owner with a mortgage. >> >> Because home ownership is good for society. Because home ownership >> provides the tax base to support community services. Because home >> ownership provides a web of jobs related to construction, insurance, >> legal, repair, etc. > > Nobody is saying people should not own homes. The question is why give > people special entitlements just for owning a home with a mortgage? And why > have these entitlements be a larger financial benefit than we give the > disabled for their housing? > I just told you why. > I have no problem with helping people in need - but helping someone pay for > their multimillion dollar home is insane. > >>> It is idiotic to help people with mortgages with housing assistance as we >>> whine about helping the disabled get basic housing. THEY have a need that >>> home owners, in general, do not. >> >> Who is whining about helping the disabled get basic housing? > > We often hear of the poor being lazy and takers and the like. It is a > conservative mantra. > "We often hear of"... So no examples.