Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeff Layman Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Re: What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic AI apps/programs/URLs on our devices? Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 13:51:24 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 14:51:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d3aaad39371f880fc10a2cd1152bffc2"; logging-data="472736"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19aL0Ose/hUPNu+q6Q+pSZU3myQhwS9gow=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:TiIrg/D9ELlkeKQ5q93IUzWyNlw= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.android:147722 misc.phone.mobile.iphone:194240 alt.comp.os.windows-10:183419 On 09/04/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote: > On 2025-04-09 08:12, Jeff Layman wrote: >> >> On 08/04/2025 23:16, Marion wrote: >>> >>> Note that Grok does not appear to meet our divine requirements though of >>> being free, adfree and not requiring a login/password mothership account. >> >> Its "Terms and Conditions" and "Privacy Policy" together come to around >> 11,000 words. That's probably about average these days. :-( >> >> Does anyone with no commercial interest actually read these? > > An example of what Shoshana Zuboff in her book "The Age Of Surveillance > Capitalism" called an 'uncontract' - an online 'contract' whose terms > were made so complex that no-one would ever read them. If anyone succeeded in reading through one of these uncontracts they should award themselves this: -- Jeff