Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Arno Welzel Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: RCS is not more private and secure than texting according to the FBI Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 01:25:53 +0100 Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net ylVjKf3cOt6YUw79La3Ipw2Qa5iOoYclzFi1HA9mO+oSINrCth Cancel-Lock: sha1:IpeJ3scrWQ4jduvs4iHE+8ImreY= sha256:DgZUyCG/+WN91e9GMp48Kt+1DZ19LrQL+ny9StbovJQ= Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.android:145647 misc.phone.mobile.iphone:192319 Carlos E.R., 2024-12-25 19:49: > On 2024-12-25 18:19, Arno Welzel wrote: [...] >> Well - "Swiss made" also means, they know the requirements for Swiss >> public institutions better then companies from the US or other >> countries. And even when companies from other countries provide the same >> level of security and privacy - still a Swiss company would be >> preferrable for Swiss public institutions, don't you think so? > > No. > >> Signal or Matrix are not worse in this matter - but they are not Swiss >> companies. > > No, this is not correct. In the subject of privacy and security, they > are worse. At least Signal. > > It really is not about being Swiss. > > For example: > > An end-to-end encryption is used to ensure the confidentiality of > WhatsApp. However, until recently, the automatic backup of the chats did > not offer the same security, according to a statement by the SNSF. This > is because the personal key to the data stored in the cloud was known to > the company.Jul 30, 2023 > > WhatsApp security test identifies weakness - SWI swissinfo.ch > > What has WhatsApp to do with Matrix and Signal? > > > "Threema relies on its own servers in Switzerland, while Signal uses US > companies like Amazon and Google. So if you want to use a service whose > servers are located in Europe, Threema does seem to be the only game in > town. By the way, Threema is also subject to jurisdiction in > Switzerland, and unlike Signal, the Swiss also complies with the > provisions of the European General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)." Which just confirms my point: a Swiss company is preferrable for institutions in Switzerland for many reasons and not just because of technical ones. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de