Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Arno Welzel Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy Subject: Re: RCS is not more private and secure than texting according to the FBI Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 17:09:15 +0100 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <0maa3lxnpe.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <2af3c8a2acec02b0176595ce3795478098fa2e2a@i2pn2.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net 3Zf7moekR0vGHwc4ZBc0cgzs/NSjr8Z1N2hRWTV7lRGLH3HtHb Cancel-Lock: sha1:agWJYq4o2FVWIA//+PREOA+JGHk= sha256:G1PZCpKSpsld7H+xT/vFCd+nja4lGtXhKBers7njyjg= Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: <2af3c8a2acec02b0176595ce3795478098fa2e2a@i2pn2.org> Xref: csiph.com misc.phone.mobile.iphone:192187 comp.mobile.android:145488 alt.privacy:29731 david, 2024-12-20 23:58: > Using , Ant wrote: > >>> How can you send and receive group facetime messages to and from other >>> Apple users without logging into Apple's messaging servers on the Internet? >> >> Why would I want those when I don't want to be bothered? > > You're the one who lied about iOS not always needing internet access to use > the features locked inside Apple's walled garden (such as to install apps). > > Your iOS device does almost nothing without logging into Apple's servers. "Almost nothing"? Well - calling people on the phone is possible, taking pictures, listening to music stored on the device, checking the current time, using the calculator and *all* other apps which don't need an active internet connection to work... I would not call this "almost nothing". It's not less as with Android devices when you don't have internet access. > It's up to you, not me, to explain why you lied that you don't need to log > into Apple's servers to use the walled garden (such as to install apps). Installing apps and using Apple services is just a part of the device features. You also don't need Google services all the time to use an Android device. But without *any* network connection *all* smartphones have limited functionality. So why do you consider this "almost nothing" when it comes to Apple devices? Do Android devices also do "almost nothing" without internet connection and access to Google services, just because you can't access Google Play? -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de