Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Frank Slootweg Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Facetime on Android Date: 8 Jan 2017 17:00:01 GMT Organization: NOYB Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <060120170858151176%nospam@nospam.invalid> <060120171103030483%nospam@nospam.invalid> <060120171516232529%nospam@nospam.invalid> <060120171548549579%nospam@nospam.invalid> <070120171511544127%nospam@nospam.invalid> <070120171823082576%nospam@nospam.invalid> X-Trace: individual.net IBnbpGbObHONSxaYYLJWTAjtb30tVDzNleq7Emv5cPNrxMciK8 X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:rBsIfIIfnU0WB/oo2RVmI0mDxeI= User-Agent: tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (CYGWIN_NT-6.2-WOW64/1.5.22(0.156/4/2) (i686)) Hamster/2.0.2.2 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 170108-1, 01/08/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.android:37553 nospam wrote: [Non-explantion why a wall isn't one deleted.] > you're also showing just how much of hypocrite you are in that there > are a lot of apps that are *only* on android or *only* on windows, with > no option for mac or ios users. in your world, that would be a wall, > which you conveniently ignore. First of all, I never claimed that Google or/and Microsoft are anything even remotely close to perfect, quite the contrary (if you've been paying any attention). Android/Google sucks, but they're the only option in the price range I'm willing to pay for a throw-away device like a smart-phone/tablet. And I'm using a laptop *despite* Windows (and for the same price argument). Having said that, ... Care to give some actual examples? And ones which are relevant to the topic at hand, i.e. (human) communication between devices. [...] > why doesn't google port android to iphones and ipads? That's not what knowledgeable people would call a 'port', because it would require a rewrite of all the hardware dependent stuff. Assuming it's at all possible, given CPU architecture, etc.. (Note that, despite what some people think, Android is not Linux.) > the ios kernel is open source, as is quite a bit more, so they have a > head start. Sorry, but you seem to be out of your league. The iOS kernel would be mostly useless, because what's needed is an *Android* kernel for iHardware. > why doesn't another company port android to existing ios devices? Because it's a *gigantic* undertaking. Absolutely incomparable with porting FaceTime to other platforms. > that would be a *lot* cheaper than designing and building a new > android phone. You're kidding, right!? Designing and building a new Android phone is peanuts, compared to rewriting Android for iHardware. Not that the two can be compared, because they require totally different expertise, people, equipment, etc.. [...] > also note that there are licensing fees to use parts of android, which > is a wall. some of those noname android devices do not have the play > store, which means a lot of apps aren't directly available to them. yet > another wall. Every one needs to pay licences and other fees all the time, but more importantly, such a financial wall is, as you (should) know full well, not the kind of wall which is meant when one talks about a "walled garden".