Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!news.unit0.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 21:04:18 +1000 Lines: 380 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ze5wg8P+etfnre5cF9XOIA1YVTfEc1misSzLDFj+zBw7fh8os= Cancel-Lock: sha1:G50LzWS04zxy8euZpvrVoZovBHA= In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com misc.phone.mobile.iphone:91175 comp.mobile.ipad:58384 comp.mobile.android:33887 Horace Algier wrote > Rod Speed wrote >>> I have both iOS and Android and my need is very simple: >>> GOAL: Each night, I lull myself to sleep by listening to youtube >>> documentaries with the display blanked (preferably offline). >> Stupid to require the display to be blanked, makes a >> lot more sense to just plug in the charger and forget >> the display. You have to charge the idevice anyway. > Um.....it's pretty obvious why one would want to play audio at night with > the display blanked, especially as the goal is to eventually fall asleep > without having to touch the device; Even you should be able to manage to put the idevice face down, if someone was actually stupid enough do you a youtube video showing you how to put your idevice face down. >>> On both Android and iOS, you can't just open the documentary >>> in the youtube app, because the youtube app is resrictive in that >>> it won't allow you to blank the screen and still listen to the audio. >> There is however an addon for the youtube app that does allow that. > You play games just like nospam does. More of your lies. > What does the addon do? What you asked for, allows you to blank the screen using the power button on the idevice and still listen to the audio. That is what the word THAT means in that context. > a. Does it download the audio of the two-hour video? Nope. > b. Or does it allow the display to be turned off while the video plays? Yep, like I said. > Here are my two test videos: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfRq-JeUCSM (WWII documentary) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9XzLzMAQ-Q (History of the World) > What is the name of the addon that plays the > audio of those two videos with the screen off? Go and find it for yourself, I didn’t bother to record it, it popped up when I played something in the youtube app when you originally claimed that it wasn’t possible to have just the audio with iOS. >>> However, on Android, it's still trivially simple to listen to the >>> youtube >>> documentaries with the screen off, either by pointing a free web browser >>> to youtube.com and then playing the video with the screen turned off, >> Works just as well on iOS using Chrome. > I'm on iOS 9.3.2 and Chrome of 52.0.2743.84. > When I blank the screen, the youtube video stops playing. Yes, but all you have to do is do what I listed below to get just the audio. You could try actually reading a post before replying to it, or at least edit your initial superficial response when you later come across the fuller elaboration of how you get just the audio later in my post. >>> or by downloading the videos or extracting the >>> audio from the videos, and playing them offline. >> Works just as well with an iOS device and is in fact the way >> I usually do it for the youngest turk, because he is often in >> the situation where it isnt as convenient to plug in the charger. > I assume you're saying you routinely extract > the audio from two-hour long documentaries, From anything on youtube. > which is the workaround here. > http://i.cubeupload.com/fBB7vI.jpg > As noted, this is trivial on Android (tap,tap,done). > http://i.cubeupload.com/CR6xjY.jpg Just as trivial when you want it on iOS, use any decent youtube downloader, tell it you want just the audio. > How do you just as easily download just the audio from Youtube on iOS? Again, its all there below. >>> For example, here is a set of stacked up youtube documentaries >>> (in m4a audio format) which were easily extracted off youtube using >>> the Android "NewPipe" freeware (package name = org.schabi.newpipe). >>> http://i67.tinypic.com/2a8gfls.jpg >> There are plenty of youtube downloaders that work fine on anything you >> like. > Most are geared toward very short 15-minute youtube music videos. Wrong. Any decent one will download anything you tell it to. > Which work with typical 2-hour documentaries such as these two? > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfRq-JeUCSM (WWII documentary) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9XzLzMAQ-Q (History of the World) >>> So, on Android, it's trivial to play any youtube audio file (whether >>> online >>> or offline) with the display turned off using commonly available >>> freeware. >> Just as true of iOS. > You act like nospam's brother. More of your lies. > You say it's trivial. Everyone see for themselves that I did nothing of the kind at that what I actually said was >> Just as true of iOS. > On Android, it's clearly tap-tap-done, whether you play the video > online in a browser or whether you download just the audio with > a single tap (where you can download multiple 2-hour audios just > by tapping, with no registration required and no external servers > required other than youtube itself). > How again do you accomplish that on iOS? Same way as with iOS, just tap for the youtube downloader, tell it what you want the download format to be, wait for it to happen. >>> Even though it's trivial on Android already, I ask the Android users if >>> they >>> know of a *better* way than the two ways proposed above that I've used. >> The obvious better way is to use the addon for the youtube app. > What add on for iOS downloads just the audio for multiple two-hour > youtube documentaries as easily as NewPipe does on Android? See above. >>> Meanwhile, on iOS, I still haven't yet been >>> successful in performing this simple task. >> Because you actually are that stupid/incompetent >> and that is presumably why you got the bums rush >> from your previous employment and ended up a >> pathetic excuse for a troll/pathological liar in here. > Wow. It doesn't look like you're wearing your adult clothes today. Then you need new glasses, BAD. >>> The first minor hurdle is that, on iOS, the Safari browser *refuses* >>> to open a youtube URL if the youtube app exists! Huh? That's crazy, >>> so, maybe I made a mistake - so the first question is how do you open >>> a youtube URL in Safari when you also have the Youtube app installed? >> You get real fucking radical and use a different browser. > What combination of Chrome and iOS are you using? > Blanking the iOS 9.3.2 screen with a youtube video playing in Chrome > 52.0.2743.84 causes the video to stop playing on iOS. So read the fucking elaboration further down. > (It works fine in Android, as I said from the start.) >>> Anyway, the restrictions Apple puts on Safari don't exist with >>> the other browsers, e.g., Dolphin, Mercury, & Chrome have no >>> problem opening a youtube video even if the youtube app exists. >>> Even so, I could still trick the restrictive Safari into opening a >>> youtube >>> video by deleting the youtube app, and then Safari does play the youtube >>> video. >>> But while playing the video and then blanking the display is easy on >>> Android, when you blank the display on iOS, the video stops playing, >>> whether you're in Safari, Mercury, Dolphin, or Chrome. >> Yes, but at least with chrome, all you have to do is hit the home >> button again, see the play bar on the screen, tap the play diamond, >> press the power button again to blank the screen and listen to just >> the audio with the screen blanked for as long as you like. > In iOS 9.3.2, with the youtube video playing in Chrome 52.0.2743.84, when > I > hit the "home" button, the video stops playing. Read the whole fucking para above, fuckwit. > What version of Chrome and iOS are you using? >>> So, as usual, the limitations in iOS make even simple things harder. >> Wrong, as always. > You say that that, without backing up a thing you say. More of your pathological lying. I JUST BACKED UP WHAT I SAID WITH A WHOLE FUCKING PARA SPELLING OUT HOW TO GET JUST THE AUDIO WITH CHROME, ONLY TO HAVE YOU IGNORE THE WHOLE FUCKING PARA. > In contrast, I back up *everything* I say. More of your bare faced lies with all your stupid shit in this pathetic excuse for a pack of lies alone. > You have zero credibility. Says the terminal fuckwit who can't manage to read a single fucking para that spells out how to get Chrome to continue playing the youtube video with the screen blanked. > I always prove my statements out. All you ever actually do is prove what terminal fuckwit and pathological liar you have always been and why you got the bums rush when even your employer managed to work that out. > When we finally get the solution on iOS, We've had that for hours now. > we'll compare how *simple* the iOS solution is, compared to > the tap-tap-done solution that we already have for Android. That is precisely what using chrome is. > Given how restricted iOS is, almost certainly the solution on iOS will be > far more complex than the simple solutions we already have for Android. It isnt. > So far, nobody has suggested a solution that actually works on iOS. There you go again, lying thru your fucking teeth, as always. > They just "say" it without providing enough information to actually do it. Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying thru your fucking teeth, as always. >>> Due to those arbitrary iOS limitations, I'm apparently forced to extract >>> the one and two-hour-long audio from the youtube documentaries on iOS. >> No you are not. > On Android, I explained two tap-tap-done methods for playing the audio, > one > of which requires extracting the audio while the other doesn't require > anything. Just as true of iOS as I have elaborated above. In fact with the youtube app addon THERE ARE NO FUCKING TAPS REQUIRED AT ALL ONCE ITS ADDED, EXCEPT TO BLANK THE SCREEN USING THE POWER BUTTON AS ALWAYS. > On iOS, it remains to be seen how we can accomplish this simple task. We've already seen. >>> Googling for how to extract the audio from a long youtube documentary, >>> it seems that most of the tools out there are web based and designed for >>> short videos, not one and two-hour long videos. >> Only if you are too stupid to even notice the youtube downloaders. >> Plenty of those allow you to specify the format you want the download >> in and allow you to specify mp3 etc which downloads JUST the audio. > Except that most of them are restricted. More of your lies. > Most can't handle two-hour videos. More of your lies. > Some require registration and other unnecessary steps. Irrelevant to your lies. > Remember, on Android, it's tap-tap done. On iOS its just one press of the power button and its fucking done with the youtube addon. > All I'm asking is for something very simple on iOS to be similarly easy. And you got four fucking ways of doing that. >>> So, because of restrictions, the question morphs, only out of >>> necessity... >>> FROM: How do you play youtube audio with the display blanked? >>> TO: How do you extract large audio files from youtube on iOS? >>> The goal is: >>> Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night >> Stupid goal to have the screen off IMO. > For you to say that it's stupid to play an audio file at night with > the screen off, is for you to reveal how your mind actually works. Yep, its got enough of a clue to have worked out that even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be able to manage to put the fucking idevice face down when you want just the fucking audio. > You may not want to play audio in the background with the screen > off at night, but it's not a stupid goal for many other people. It is a stupid 'goal' when its so fucking easy to put the fucking idevice face down. > So, all you really prove is your limited mindset. What it actually proves is that you are such a terminal fuckwit that you can't even manage to work out how to put the fucking idevice face down and why you got the bums rush from the operation that was ever actually stupid enough to employ you in the first place. >>> QUESTION FOR ANDROID USERS: >>> Do you know of a better way to accomplish the task? >> Yes, see my list and the above. > I haven't seen any "list" from you yet Everyone see for themselves that you are lying thru your fucking teeth, as always. > and certainly none of the above makes the process > I've already implemented on Android any better. Everyone see for themselves that you are lying thru your fucking teeth, as always. A SINGLE PRESS OF THE POWER BUTTON WITH THE YOUTUBE ADDON INSTALLED IS MUCH BETTER. >>> QUESTION FOR IOS USERS: >>> What is the best iOS freeware to extract very long audio from youtube? >> That is the worst way to do what you want to achieve. > I agree that the simplest goal is to just *play* the audio of > the youtube documentary online and then to blank the screen. And that is what the addon for the youtube app provides WITH JUST THE ONE TAP OF THE POWER BUTTON TO BLANK THE SCREEN. > But, as usual, the method you suggested doesn't work when you really try > it, They all do you silly little pathological liar. > so, we'll have to see if someone else > actually knows what they're talking about. No one is going to bother with such a terminal fuckwit who can't even manage the most simple stuff like put the fucking idevice face down or even install the addon for youtube that allows what he wants with a single tap of the power button. And you never tried that, you fucking pathological liar.