From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: voting booths in republican areas (was: Who pays..) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 06:18:53 +1000 Lines: 82 Message-ID: References: <1441f$55abc986$43da7656$24535@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> <21o <448fcd2fbde463f54a667ea9a3b0f02b@dizum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net Xba9XfkZ62SYeei56qVIgAabxkXIhZLe1bZ5YLHXfs5z+D7M8= Cancel-Lock: sha1:rCni8qeDL8gDvzArAc8ozuhdW3k= In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!feed.ac-versailles.fr!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com misc.phone.mobile.iphone:76539 comp.mobile.android:21701 "PAS" wrote in message news:mptma8$feh$1@dont-email.me... > "Nomen Nescio" wrote in message > news:448fcd2fbde463f54a667ea9a3b0f02b@dizum.com... >>> Am 04.08.2015 um 15:59 schrieb Savageduck: >>> >>> > ...and which State do you live in that photo ID is required at a >>> > polling place? >>> >>> In the US you're not required to prove that you're the one your >>> claiming to be at a polling place? Sounds strange to me... >> >> It varies from one region to the next. Republican voters are die-hard >> voters. So if a voting booth is in a republican stronghold, the >> standard of identity proof is much higher. Republicans are largely >> disciplined on this while democrats are not. So increasing >> restrictions and voting difficulty always reduces number of democratic >> votes. Democrats have less wealth as a whole, and naturally a >> disproportionate higher number of democrats don't have passports or >> driver licenses. >> >> It's a republican political strategy, similar to large billboards >> during campaign times saying "voting fraud is a crime.. will be >> strictly enforced!" Of course everyone knows that, but the strategy >> is actually to frighten legit voters into not taking any risk (like >> those who may not have a driver license or passport, or those who >> recently moved into the area, who might be uncertain whether they were >> automatically deregistered from the previous area, etc). > > Can you cite anything that proves your claim that Democrats have less > wealth than Republicans? Yes, the poorest voters do tend to vote Dem. > Two of the largest blue states are California and New York. There is far > more democratic wealth in those states than Republican. That last is very arguable. And what matters is who the poorest tend to vote for. > Where do you get your information that polling places in Republican > strongholds require a higher standard of proof of identity? The standard > of identity is the same across an entire state, it does not differ from > one area of a state to another. In New York, we walk into or polling > place, say who we are, then the poll worker looks up our name on the list > and we sign our name. If I know the name and address of someone else, I > can easily claim to be that person and vote fraudulently. > Democrats don't support voter ID for one simple reason - they have no > interest in prohibiting voter fraud because they benefit from it. Even sillier than you usually manage. > How does requiring voter ID scare off voters? Not scare off so much as makes it harder to vote for those who don't have a photo ID. When so many of those tend to not bother to vote at all, that requirement will obviously see even more not bother when they have to fart around getting a photo ID so they can vote. > How difficult is it to obtain an ID? You don't need a driver's license, > you can get a state issued ID card. But if you don't already have one, because you are too poor to be able to afford to have a car etc, why would you bother if you don't care enough about politics to bother to vote ? Makes it a lot harder for those who actively encourage those who wouldn't bother to vote to get off their arses on the day and actually vote because someone has chosen to pick you up from home and take you to where you vote and bring you home when some of those wont have photo ID and can't get it on the day. > This notion that requiring voter ID is a political strategy and that the > purpose is to scare off voters is pure bunk. Bullshit.