Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.tal.de!news.wtal.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 20:24:52 +1000 Lines: 113 Message-ID: References: <1441f$55abc986$43da7656$24535@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> <200720151647352171%YourName@YourISP.com> <79685$55ae6569$43da7656$23251@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> <694a0$55b3c33a$adb2d18a$25839@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net gA+3rf4SEj/oG7gwMz2KPgYoXM867lCk2fVDV/8ln1kyWxQHA= Cancel-Lock: sha1:jTEYoaKEX4XS0h6U82Sz0m8qYHw= In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: aioe.org misc.phone.mobile.iphone:76437 comp.mobile.android:21548 Michael Eyd wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> Michael Eyd wrote >>> Rod Speed wrote >>>> Frank Slootweg wrote >>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>> M.L. wrote >>>>>>> Chris Blunt wrote >>>>>>>> So how can people who don't hold passports ever stay at hotels in >>>>>>>> Italy? >>>>>>> I do not know the answer to that question, but, I *assume* they're >>>>>>> more worried about foreigners than about the locals??? >>>>>> But most of the foreigners who stay there wouldn't have a passport >>>>>> because EU citizens don't need to have one when moving around >>>>>> inside most of the EU. >>>>> Probably most will have a passport, >>>> Easy to claim with those who choose to move around only in the >>>> Schengen region. >>> You completely misinterpret the Schengen regulations: >> Nope. > Yes. Nope. >>> They're about not performing controls at the borders anymore, >> And that is what passports are for. > Wrong, as always. Nope. > Passports are documents to prove that you're allowed (both by your country > of origin and, if required, by the destination country, plus possibly any > countries you'll pass through during your journey) to travel at all. Even more pig ignorant that you usually manage. How odd that no passport is required at all if you stay in the Schengen region. > *Usually* they'll get checked at borders, but that doesn't mean that > you'll only need such a passport at the border. How odd that those who don’t cross borders don’t need a passport. >>> but these regulations don't lift the necessity to carry valid travel >>> documents when crossing a border! >> But there is no requirement FOR A PASSPORT. > There is, for some people. Not within the Schengen region being discussed. > People from India e.g. India ain't a Schengen country, fuckwit. > (just to name one country, where I know it for sure) have to carry their > passport (with a Schengen visa) when travelling inside the Schengen area. Irrelevant to what those from Schengen countrys need to have. >>> For inhabitants of states which are members of the Schengen treaty, it >>> is sufficient to have an ID card >> So there is no requirement FOR A PASSPORT >> and everyone will have an ID card already. > There are not only people from Schengen countries traveling around here... > ;-) Pity those are the ones being discussed, fuckwit. >>> (as for all EU countries and most other European countries), while >>> people from other countries still have to carry the necessary papers >>> (passport e.g.). And even though you will not be checked at the >>> border, there is quite a wide area around the borderlines, where >>> police is allowed to stop you and to verify your documents. >> But there is no requirement FOR A PASSPORT. > It is, depending on your country of origin. Not with those from Schengen countrys being discussed, fuckwit. >>>>> but if they don't, they'll have an identity card, >>>> But Italian hotels don’t hold those so they >>>> are irrelevant to what is being discussed. >>>>> which *is* required to travel within the EU/'Europe'. >>>> Bullshit. >>> You have no idea whatsoever, as usual. >> Easy to claim when you are face down in the mud, as always. > You have to know, as you're there underneath me... ;-) Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant kraut fantasys.