Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 08:45:27 +1000 Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <1441f$55abc986$43da7656$24535@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> <200720151647352171%YourName@YourISP.com> <79685$55ae6569$43da7656$23251@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> <694a0$55b3c33a$adb2d18a$25839@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 3pkQQvcxTtJFyF4hZ/6QBAoC1+rM9BrVj7m3QC2wp4o68xHsk= Cancel-Lock: sha1:jS5Kn2ueHUVMQvwHGbjy0eTfwsA= In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: aioe.org misc.phone.mobile.iphone:76318 comp.mobile.android:21393 Dieghettino wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> Frank Slootweg wrote >>> Rod Speed wrote: >>>> "M.L." wrote in message >>>> news:694a0$55b3c33a$adb2d18a$25839@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com... >>>> > On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:22:32 +0800, Chris Blunt wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> So how can people who don't hold passports ever stay at hotels in >>>> >> Italy? >>>> > >>>> > I do not know the answer to that question, but, I *assume* they're >>>> > more >>>> > worried about foreigners than about the locals??? >>>> >>>> But most of the foreigners who stay there wouldn't have a passport >>>> because EU citizens don't need to have one when moving around >>>> inside most of the EU. >>> >>> Probably most will have a passport, >> >> Easy to claim with those who choose to >> move around only in the Schengen region. > This is false. It can't be false so say that it is easy to claim, it obviously is easy to claim. > In principle, moving around in the Schengen region you need no ID. In practice you don’t either. > In practice, you can be required to identify And there is nothing they can do if you don’t. > and you need an ID but this does not > imply passport. Identity card is enough. And so is any ID like a driver's license too. >>> but if they don't, they'll have an identity card, >> But Italian hotels don’t hold those so they >> are irrelevant to what is being discussed. > This is false: Nope. > most of countries which recognize italian identity card > issue an equivalent one which is recognized in Italy > and is perfectly valid and accepted by hotels. BUT IS NOT HELD BY THE HOTEL LIKE THE PASSPORT BEING DISCUSSED. >>> which *is* required to travel within the EU/'Europe'. >> Bullshit. > No: simple truth. You just proved that it is nothing even remotely like truth.