Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richmond Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:04:40 +0100 Organization: Frantic Message-ID: <86frtvepnr.fsf@example.com> References: <59dc7029-32ce-5ecd-95bc-176055dc97cf@invalid.nospam> <86jzj8o4o6.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1175472"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:OZdRGAZwqJeyLlB0BXNFujHxIHs= sha1:c6Qe8RBpjHkxnSmglS2Isrb98xU= X-User-ID: eJwFwQEBACAIA7BKIP5IHa70j+CGoFO5CW4MRkagBzyrvHoe9coGuEgo81p3tLmnwmXxARjuEM8= Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.android:141704 misc.phone.mobile.iphone:187762 alt.comp.os.windows-10:176787 Newyana2 writes: > On 6/1/2024 3:15 PM, Richmond wrote: >> Why would anyone think that? The news article says "However, the NSA >> document does warn that the turn it off and on again advice will only >> sometimes prevent these attacks from being successful." >> > > Do you know how that's so? I didn't see any version of this news > that explained the claim. Spearphishing has nothing to do with > resident malware. And the rest of the advice is mostly things > that few understand and fewer would do. I can only speculate, a spear fishing attack could take you to a malicious website, which then inserts malware via a vulnerability in your browser. This malware could remain in memory until you reboot. > I'm all for better security on cellphones, but to my mind this > is just an example of how the mainstream media feeds the public > any old clickbait, but avoids actually printing useful information. > If they did then no one would read their stuff. That's why they're > the *mainstream* media. This case was a perfect example. > Forbes took a half-baked, entirely unexplained graphic from > the NSA -- probably intended for agents -- and reduced it to > "NSA Warns iPhone And Android Users To Turn It Off And On Again". > > People read that and, like you, think they've learned how to > protect their phone from attacks with a nearly effortless trick. No, not like me. I didn't learn anything from the article. I reboot my phone from time to time anyway because I already knew it is a good idea. > It's like the way that privacy articles always tell us to delete > cookies once in awhile. That advice is not wrong, but it misleads > people into thinking they understand the issue when they really > don't.