Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: polygonum Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: SwiftKey vulnerability lets hackers easily take control of devices Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:14:27 +0100 Organization: me Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net I1YAVv4PgYjW5OvD10XUUAPoFLRk/ck6+7lsHLK0MvCnZaj7s= Cancel-Lock: sha1:mY27KPX/PKg+PiHFJFux8TsosnM= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:8000 On 27/06/2015 09:12, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 27/06/2015 10:08 AM, Mike Duffy wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 19:12:37 +1000, Sylvia Else wrote: >> >>> Unless the relevant consumer laws state otherwise, it would be against >>> Samsung, since the consumer has no contract with Swiftkey. >> >> Did you ever read (all the way to the end) the Samsung licence >> agrreement? >> >> I gave up and turned off auto-update of my phone when I got to the >> special >> section for Quebec. I am not a lawyer, but on the face of it it looks >> imperturbably unenforceable according to Quebec law. >> >> Quebec law clearly states that french documents where available take >> precedence over english translations under the civil code. But the Quebec >> addendum (in french) states that the english copy of the contract takes >> precedence over the french translation. So you end up with a circular >> reference in the legal precedence relationship of the two versions. >> > > I suspect many software licence agreements are, at least in part, > unenforceable, particularly where the software comes as a necessary > adjunct to a physical object such as a phone. > > In the present case, even if the licence agreement purported to limit > Samsung's liability in respect of the software, that would fail to get > past consumer protection laws in jurisdictions such as Australia, where > the law expressly prevents a supplier from contracting out of its > liabilities under the law. > > Sylvia. The issue for me, right now, is to find out what I can do about it, or even if it affects me. I don't remember the last update my Samsung S2 got! Sat with JellyBean 4.1.2 from 2013. I don't want to get rid the phone yet (am waiting to make a decision about replacement as the rest of this year's phones get released). Indeed, is the keyboard software -- Rod