Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Walter Banks Newsgroups: comp.misc,alt.sys.pdp11,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:45:22 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 90 Message-ID: <537BBEE1.A8690F46@bytecraft.com> References: <20140519154416.487cd031.rsw@therandymon.com> <20140520111048.ea712fde.rsw@therandymon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: Li9HrIEtE+XJf+4eCXHVYw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD479 (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:2921 RS Wood wrote: > On Mon, 19 May 2014 23:10:34 +0200 > Paul Sture wrote: > > > That is very similar to the first PDP I worked on, and coincidentally that > > was 1978 as well. > > > > Ours started out with 64KB, two RK05 disks and 3 VT52 terminals. By > > Christmas 1979 we had upgraded it to 192KB, 6 terminals, another couple of > > RK05s and an RL02. No tape though, we did our backups to RK05s. > > > > Fascinating to hear from someone who had experience with one of these > things. This picture of the sequence of byte-by-byte instructions for > booting the machine blows my mind. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/osr/14043526294/in/set-72157644327706146 > > Kind of puts into perspective PC users who are having trouble with > GRUB2 or think their BIOS sucks, etc. Here, I'll transcribe it: > > LA 010000 > DEP 012737 > 000005 > 177404 > 000777 > LA 010000 > START > WAIT 1 SEC > LA 0000000 > START > . P4 > > Wizardry, total wizardry. I'm in awe. I just happened to have a PDP-11 instruction list card on my desk (: Maybe my wife is correct I don't throw things away ) the original PDP-11 before it was renamed PDP11/20. For a PDP11 Bootstrap Loader is listed as ----------- LOC CONT ----------- *744 16701 *746 26 *750 12702 *752 352 *754 5211 *756 105711 *760 100376 *762 116162 *764 2 *766 *400 *770 5267 *772 177756 *744 756 *756 177560 (TK) or 177550 (PR) ----------- MEM SIZE * ----------- 4K 17 8K 37 12K 57 16K 77 20K 117 24K 137 28K 157 I wish I had a nickel for everytime I keyed a bootstrap into a PDP-11 The UNIBUS was quite easy to interface to and a friend and I took a prototype board and a handful of logic to create a combinatorial logic implementation of the PDP-11 bootstrap in a midnight to morning experiment to save us some time. w.. w..