Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'attribute': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'attributes': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; "'__doc__',": 0.16; 'nameerror:': 0.16; 'on)': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:problems': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'finally,': 0.24; 'fine': 0.24; 'this:': 0.26; 'defined': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'getting': 0.31; "skip:' 10": 0.31; '"",': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'names.': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'skip:> 10': 0.36; 'shows': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'skip:[ 10': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'name': 0.63; 'useful.': 0.68; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'received:108': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: problems with Methods in Python 3.4.2 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:59:33 -0500 References: <329c01d01ae7$dc8d9c20$95a8d460$@bluewin.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-108-16-203-145.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: <329c01d01ae7$dc8d9c20$95a8d460$@bluewin.ch> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 82 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1418936392 news.xs4all.nl 2937 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56357 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:82651 On 12/18/2014 12:27 PM, Marcus L=C3=BCtolf wrote: Learn to use dir to fine valid names. > 1)I am trying to do this: > > >>> dir(_builtins_) > > I am getting this: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "", line 1, in > > dir(_builtins_) > > NameError: name '_builtins_' is not defined >>> dir() ['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__loader__', '__name__', '__package__',=20 '__spec__'] shows the defined names. > 2)I am trying to do this: > >>>> 'TTA',_add_('GGA') > > I=E2=80=99am getting this : > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "", line 1, in > > 'TTA',_add_('GGA') > > NameError: name '_add_' is not defined >>> dir('a') shows string attribute names > 3)I am trying to do this: > >>>> -3 .abs() > > I=E2=80=99am getting this > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "", line 1, in > > -3 .abs() > > AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'abs' dir(3) shows int attributes > 4) finally, after printing > > >>>abs._doc_() > > I am getting this (and so on) : > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "", line 1, in > > abs._doc_() > > AttributeError: 'builtin_function_or_method' object has no attribute '_= doc_' dir(abs) ditto > What did I do wrong ? You did not use the interactive help already available. help()=20 is also very useful. --=20 Terry Jan Reedy