Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!87.79.20.101.MISMATCH!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!bcyclone01.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone01.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'abuse': 0.07; 'javascript,': 0.07; 'buttons': 0.09; 'enabled,': 0.09; 'subject:design': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '>on': 0.16; '>the': 0.16; 'blocks': 0.16; 'for,': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'icon': 0.16; 'message-id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'objects.': 0.16; 'placeholder': 0.16; 'received:211.29': 0.16; 'received:211.29.132': 0.16; 'received:cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'received:syd.optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'meant': 0.20; 'example': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'load': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'subject:like': 0.24; 'subject:python.org': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'extension': 0.26; 'this:': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'character': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'dec': 0.30; 'along': 0.30; 'default,': 0.31; 'font': 0.31; 'purely': 0.31; 'skip:c 30': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'common': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; '(we': 0.36; 'appearance': 0.36; 'received:com.au': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'received:211': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'visual': 0.39; 'ian': 0.60; 'is.': 0.60; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'disabled,': 0.84; 'malicious': 0.84; "they'd": 0.84; 'url:plus': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.87; 'mean.': 0.91; 'imagine': 0.93 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:55:53 +1100 From: Cameron Simpson To: Ian Kelly Subject: Re: Do you like the current design of python.org? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) References: X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=dMCfxopb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:117 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:17 a=ZtCCktOnAAAA:8 a=PO7r1zJSAAAA:8 a=J0QyKEt1u0cA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=8AHkEIZyAAAA:8 a=vrnE16BAAAAA:8 a=A92cGCtB03wA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=3FWwf49lWP-u2qEbieIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 Cc: Python X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1418348272 news.xs4all.nl 2875 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40433 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 5360 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3049231417 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:82399 On 11Dec2014 00:19, Ian Kelly wrote: >On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> - the AA menu buttons are all dysfunctional, being purely javascript; it >would be better if the menu was styled "display=none" by default, and made >visible by javascript > >With Javascript enabled, the AA menu buttons don't seem to be displayed at >all, so I don't understand what the purpose of those is. The point is more that with javascript disabled, the buttons are displayed and nonfunctional. >> There are also the disappointingly common placeholder characters in >various place, for example to the left of each item in the "Socialize" >menu. These look like this: >> >>
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  • > >I don't know what you mean. Are you saying that you see unrendered HTML to >the left of the items? All I see are icons. Along with javascript, the NoScript extension blocks various untrusted objects. Those icons come from a loadable font, which was blocked. If I allow the font to load I get icons. You can imagine the abuse a font load can be used for, such as "I can't unsee that!" icon characters or better still, character transliteration for malicious purpose (we rely on the visual appearance of glyphs to be what we expect). Cheers, Cameron Simpson If people were meant to run around naked, they'd have been born that way. - Rico the Masher, bpheintz@ucsvax.ucs.umass.edu