Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'yet.': 0.04; 'that?': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'twisted,': 0.07; 'false.': 0.09; 'obstacles': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '\xe2\x80\x94': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '*real*': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'ported': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:edition': 0.16; 'library': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; 'convenient': 0.24; 'people,': 0.24; 'regardless': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'easy,': 0.31; 'obscure': 0.31; 'relies': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'regular': 0.32; 'but': 0.35; "i'll": 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; "you're": 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'relatively': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'determine': 0.67; 'lack': 0.78; 'now*': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:survey': 0.84; 'wanting': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Python 2.x and 3.x use survey, 2014 edition Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:32:02 +1100 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney Cancel-Lock: sha1:zVOR3nYbj/waO3pNSslAHkzHj10= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1418333546 news.xs4all.nl 2852 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52341 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:82384 "Giampaolo Rodola'" writes: > I still think the only *real* obstacle remains the lack of important > packages such as twisted, gevent and pika which haven't been ported > yet. What disqualifies other obstacles from being “*real* obstacles”? How do you determine that? > With those ones ported switching to Python 3 *right now* is not only > possible and relatively easy, but also convenient. If my program relies on an obscure library ‘foo’, and that library is not ported to Python 3, switching to Python 3 is not feasible, and certainly not convenient — regardless of the status of “important packages such as twisted, gevent, and pika”. So your assertion here is plainly false. What is it you're actually wanting to say? -- \ “Some people, when confronted with a problem, think ‘I know, | `\ I'll use regular expressions’. Now they have two problems.” | _o__) —Jamie Zawinski, in alt.religion.emacs | Ben Finney