Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!cyclone03.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!voer-me.highwinds-media.com!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!bcyclone05.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone05.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.142 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.72; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'skip:/ 10': 0.09; 'to:addr:pobox.com': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '11:59': 0.16; 'runtime.': 0.16; 'subject:Dev': 0.16; 'subject:edition': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; 'else,': 0.19; 'slightly': 0.19; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'appears': 0.22; 'cc:addr:gmail.com': 0.22; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'url:moin': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; '>': 0.26; 'holds': 0.26; 'mention': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'cc:2**2': 0.30; 'dec': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'option.': 0.31; 'option': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'projects.': 0.33; 'updated': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; 'anywhere': 0.35; 'possible.': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'similar': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'email addr:python.org': 0.37; 'skip:& 10': 0.38; 'url:options': 0.38; 'skip:_ 40': 0.38; '(from': 0.39; 'heard': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'url:it': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'year.': 0.61; 'took': 0.61; "you'll": 0.62; 'personal': 0.63; 'pick': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'smith': 0.68; 'results': 0.69; 'published': 0.71; 'url:gl': 0.72; 'url:goo': 0.75; 'unsubscribe:': 0.77; '2014,': 0.84; 'email name :python-dev': 0.84; 'python-dev': 0.84; 'remarks': 0.84; 'subject:survey': 0.84; 'url:item': 0.84; 'url:python-dev': 0.84; 'usage.': 0.84; 'conducted': 0.91; 'edition,': 0.91; 'url:image': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=s/mkg/sp8bG1EZF1NY0X5J5tJBxu1Cp+gWi6SJYtuMU=; b=dQK3bce4VzMBqIdK79AZhlGsN5zS/PELEGf/iT5cUXzERCfhyVyJcAWVdWnuyfpo5c s/UlbuT8pWTXoy2TyCB5dHA81h6JAkEkd5pnBpl5VsJ/aTNcGLIW1bR1DiTb8njL83/m VllfvaKpBkSzgKIXXzRZVJ2DLYItWJPaScN2xkDUnwuGmXGXoyROUwfpoDlRT1jSAK5e Jb2vKjrm/G+NPUQ84EAb9jAlaTPObk4torFIxqlf+5bmFwfw7DgpSnL41/6ZAlaG+hjz Qo8FdS16nX2iMW9o9KgCQGrl1+zecOXsKB/zeBc/6zmZRrc2I6K6+phy6eVFsbUgarE5 xO/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.167.84 with SMTP id p20mr10684570qay.28.1418232729010; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:32:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <341920B4-12B5-499D-95FC-5572338AE602@stufft.io> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:32:08 +0100 Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.x and 3.x use survey, 2014 edition From: Bruno Cauet To: Nathaniel Smith Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0153747e0589ff0509e00ae2 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:19:58 +0100 Cc: python-list@python.org, Ian Cordasco , Dan Stromberg , Python Dev X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 130 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1418286001 news.xs4all.nl 2924 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56851 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Body-CRC: 3554978712 X-Received-Bytes: 10216 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:82350 --089e0153747e0589ff0509e00ae2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Remarks heard & form updated. Nathaniel, I'm not sure about that: even if the code is 2- and 3-compatible you'll pick one runtime. 2 others questions now mention writing polyglot code. By the way I published the survey on HN, /r/programming & /r/python: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8730156 http://redd.it/2ovlwm http://redd.it/2ovls4 Feel free to publish it anywhere else, to get as many answers as possible. Bruno 2014-12-10 18:24 GMT+01:00 Nathaniel Smith : > On 10 Dec 2014 17:16, "Ian Cordasco" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Donald Stufft > wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Bruno Cauet > wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > Last year a survey was conducted on python 2 and 3 usage. > > > Here is the 2014 edition, slightly updated (from 9 to 11 questions). > > > It should not take you more than 1 minute to fill. I would be pleased > if you > > > took that time. > > > > > > Here's the url: http://goo.gl/forms/tDTcm8UzB3 > > > I'll publish the results around the end of the year. > > > > > > Last year results: https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey > > > > > > > > > Just going to say http://d.stufft.io/image/0z1841112o0C is a hard > question > > > to answer, since most code I write is both. > > > > > > > The same holds for me. > > That question appears to have just grown a "compatible with both" option. > > It might make sense to add a similar option to the following question > about what you use for personal projects. > > -n > > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/brunocauet%40gmail.com > > --089e0153747e0589ff0509e00ae2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Remarks heard & form updated.
= Nathaniel, I'm not sure about that: even if the code is 2- and 3-compat= ible you'll pick one runtime. 2 others questions now mention writing po= lyglot code.

By the way I published the survey on HN, /r/progr= amming & /r/python: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D8730156 http://redd.it/2ovlwm http://redd.it/2ovls4
Feel free to publish it anywhere else= , to get as many answers as possible.

Bruno

2014-12-10 18:24 GMT+01:00 Natha= niel Smith <njs@pobox.com>:

On 10 Dec 2014 17:16, = "Ian Cordasco" <graffatcolmingov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io> wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Bruno Cauet <brunocauet@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> > >
> > Hi all,
> > Last year a survey was conducted on python 2 and 3 usage.
> > Here is the 2014 edition, slightly updated (from 9 to 11 question= s).
> > It should not take you more than 1 minute to fill. I would be ple= ased if you
> > took that time.
> >
> > Here's the url: http://goo.gl/forms/tDTcm8UzB3
> > I'll publish the results around the end of the year.
> >
> > Last year results: https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-surv= ey
> >
> >
> > Just going to say http://d.stufft.io/image/0z1841112o0C is a hard qu= estion
> > to answer, since most code I write is both.
> >
>
> The same holds for me.

That question appears to have just grown a "= ;compatible with both" option.

It might make sense to add a similar option to the following= question about what you use for personal projects.

-n


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