Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'true,': 0.05; 'explicit': 0.07; 'subject:design': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'believes': 0.16; 'conveys': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'inclined': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'subject:like': 0.24; 'subject:python.org': 0.24; 'text,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'submitting': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'useful': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'either': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'truly': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; 'information': 0.63; 'nobody': 0.68; 'useful.': 0.68; 'internet': 0.71; 'harmful': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.87; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=cnPGXSgNfnI9LP2+U64+GnebbXw/JlWKePvYK6q+ZPE=; b=KEaHqdNCZPkdPYYFfEZLMlAHwbhfbHTFSPF9tL9Mule/ifh0kWfjDwYu4t+Nros2hO DvBmCbpQAiyQb+W0jUjQuR/mQh7SyPEkfLZJM+9ierF/ZcaCa3Z31Tamkr9rkZsyRhXM pewGhveT3vAP6VMtNyUlvQHP2CZ9PBZNXoB0nVuUe6n6oSpwtqAlqR7dMmExRwOfvNFm 6zCejVK1Cie3Sz973nTIo4fVfsUYUmd9wkYT75/5aQit8FjqLhdAcd7u1Tk96jZQ2hzo 6LuS0hDjRXOkLKBltuir72wpdJ3/jiqnXCGzrxfohnfnwe2Eo2p52IlGKWs+vMF2qU5q 1uFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.38.133 with SMTP id c5mr4519269ice.26.1418172731544; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 16:52:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <54818c42$0$12995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54875A78.9000602@stoneleaf.us> <548790e3$0$12989$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:52:11 +1100 Subject: Re: Do you like the current design of python.org? From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1418172734 news.xs4all.nl 2873 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56666 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:82251 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Christoph M. Becker wrote: >> So even if this is the one site on the entire internet where that's >> true, I'd be inclined to drop that text, because it's pretty much >> useless. > > It seems to me that text can't be useless. Either it is useful (because > it conveys correct information) or it is harmful (because it keeps > visitors from submitting an explicit bug report). I should have said "useless at best". If this is the one site on the internet where this is actually true, people like me will still ignore it because there are just so many where it's not the case, and so the words are useless. Carrying correct information that nobody believes is not truly useful. ChrisA