Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.024 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'freelance': 0.05; 'editor.': 0.09; 'ide': 0.09; 'developer': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.11; 'received:209.85.218': 0.14; 'limit,': 0.16; 'limit.': 0.16; 'silly': 0.16; 'subject:Line': 0.16; 'tab': 0.16; 'tabs': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'rules': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'settings.': 0.24; 'java': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; '>': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'dec': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'lines': 0.31; 'this.': 0.32; 'stuff': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'agree': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'editor': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'similar': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'e.g.': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'break': 0.61; 'lower': 0.61; 'browser': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'between': 0.67; 'policy.': 0.68; 'from:addr:admin': 0.78; 'krish': 0.84; 'subject:Using': 0.84; 'url:asia': 0.84 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TFn1jixIOev898nBabS7NaqJNIzhx9ZmzI+VAZwp9+0=; b=UI5gzxys9Gy0gYMUWo3odLDLXk6WehKC4RGWTSMtN3IlqxTTLRZJ47i6RSalsHA99+ zyHK0YGhRMQMxnLscdDeDpY6hAZLSwOWPx96bFHjjjjTa/wvSH4rIsuC9qdCqZbyPiVA uu1+Yc8wtnaacY2pYViPVA1XwJzIKsOaTiyTsXYcZxbk75wwQSlF8BHx0XHjqmoBLIRq vgt+Ftbfvg2vuCk1p89Pu2aYWnlITzs7Nf0kDquXh5lV+Tw3hcU3/c/PEnvFA8j8sWIE fRWE1zIJgtrSNpVSeDPXf94GYaeLKKyS6dntbSjlGiGX60UG6oL4Aq3ylt7Cp2tMyuVD J0xw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkBQHdJsAdEnkkke4MJK0CRbNdLu01Zk0fVuEXTdAL8ogZAAKpbIUeKyZQxUjMnsZm4qb6v MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.27.136 with SMTP id t8mr2916729obg.21.1418005716856; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 18:28:36 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [61.14.154.230] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 10:28:36 +0800 Subject: Re: Maintaining Maximum Line Length When Using Tabs Instead of Spaces? From: jtan To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133543e0b08710509ab2f8d Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 98 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1418005726 news.xs4all.nl 2930 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56271 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:82095 --001a1133543e0b08710509ab2f8d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Aahan Krish wrote: > > My question is to them (because I want to use tabs too) is: how do you > > maintain a line-length of 79 characters? > > > > E.g. scenario: The tab setting in your editor could be 2 or 4, and in > > other developer's browser it could be 8. The code will be longer than > > 79 chars in the latter's editor. > > Easy: You stop fretting about 79 characters. :) > I agree with this. Just settle with your team what's your standard and have similar IDE settings. > > If your policy is "lines are no more than 80-100 characters long", > then the difference between 4-space tabs and 8-space won't break stuff > unless it was already marginal. So if you run 4-space (or 2-space) > indentation, you just make sure you keep your lines to the lower end > of the limit. > > Even better, don't quibble about any sort of specific limit, and just > have a policy of "don't make stuff so long that it's unreadable, and > don't put silly arbitrary rules on your programmers". That's my > policy. > > ChrisA > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Freelance Grails and Java developer --001a1133543e0b08710509ab2f8d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Chris Angelico <<= a href=3D"mailto:rosuav@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rosuav@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
On Mon,= Dec 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Aahan Krish <= krish@aahan.me> wrote:
> My question is to them (because I want to use tabs too) is: how do you=
> maintain a line-length of 79 characters?
>
> E.g. scenario: The tab setting in your editor could be 2 or 4, and in<= br> > other developer's browser it could be 8. The code will be longer t= han
> 79 chars in the latter's editor.

Easy: You stop fretting about 79 characters. :)

I agree with this. Just settle with your team what's yo= ur standard and have similar IDE settings.
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If your policy is "lines are no more than 80-100 characters long"= ,
then the difference between 4-space tabs and 8-space won't break stuff<= br> unless it was already marginal. So if you run 4-space (or 2-space)
indentation, you just make sure you keep your lines to the lower end
of the limit.

Even better, don't quibble about any sort of specific limit, and just have a policy of "don't make stuff so long that it's unreadabl= e, and
don't put silly arbitrary rules on your programmers". That's m= y
policy.

ChrisA
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