Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'args': 0.07; 'layers': 0.07; 'pep': 0.09; 'subject:using': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'empty.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'iteration.': 0.16; 'other,': 0.16; 'raised,': 0.16; 'rewriting': 0.16; 'thought.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; 'example': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'instead.': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'gives': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'even': 0.60; 'ian': 0.60; 'break': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'note:': 0.66; 'glad': 0.83; 'confusing': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=GcIg700sAWWKodKIs8MIwR83BVCdE4WCUQF31ZO7l2s=; b=O6rEgci9d95BTYnf2+btY1MvpwPmV8QMPCAnje2f1vJIdbza0K3oWDtQ5Tzy1VuYr3 q2Wpczzu7EgRxoPx+Hhob7KYSSFRQUSH/KdjFhg88+HzAlpIuj4yHDpYibSEN8EAZi59 eaHEW5/mXX+pOzZA61/74KFSrRmHZOu0hdVVFgYL2c41da223lAz7tnLWGwHjYNmIjC8 hM6xZsVJeFlwrCRV1VqnyNi+baIQCnD4tefXobIx1ExbVJp9sww9eZRukGpM47rsXcru 9KCCp773TUXXrf22jO32kmUN5BKlLAfzmUQ+H4hgKQvsn5QWtA7OVXHfYEw9VWmWzniv YKLw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.17.79 with SMTP id z76mr7404066ioi.27.1417976995094; Sun, 07 Dec 2014 10:29:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <004e01d01173$e1641c10$a42c5430$@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 05:29:55 +1100 Subject: Re: Python Iterables struggling using map() built-in From: Chris Angelico Cc: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1417976998 news.xs4all.nl 2883 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46396 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:82076 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Dec 7, 2014 8:31 AM, "Ned Batchelder" wrote: >> NOTE: THIS EXAMPLE IS HORRIBLE. This code is crazy-confusing, and should >> never have been used as an example of iteration. It layers at least three >> iterations on top of each other, making it very difficult to see what is >> going on. It uses "while iters" where "while True" would do exactly the >> same thing (iters will never be false). > > That's not quite correct; the "while iters" actually guards against the case > where the passed args are empty. With no sub-iterators, no StopIteration > would ever be raised, and the result would be an infinite generator of empty > tuples. The "while iters" makes it return immediately instead. > > So it seems this example is even more confusing than you thought. I'm actually glad PEP 479 will break this kind of code. Gives a good excuse for rewriting it to be more readable. ChrisA