Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'caller': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:skip:t 10': 0.09; 'api': 0.11; 'being,': 0.16; 'operation,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'suspend': 0.16; 'thread,': 0.16; 'time).': 0.16; 'valid.': 0.16; 'finished': 0.19; "hasn't": 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'world,': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'external': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; 'absolute': 0.30; 'relative': 0.30; 'writes:': 0.31; 'allows': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'cases': 0.33; 'deadline': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; '(e.g.,': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'process,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'dave': 0.60; 'event.': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'choose': 0.64; 'conservative': 0.84; 'soonest': 0.84; 'subject:over': 0.84; 'received:89': 0.85; 'angel': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Akira Li <4kir4.1i@gmail.com> Subject: Re: time.monotonic() roll over Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 12:48:47 +0300 References: <54807cfd$0$2311$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <87vblr8lcw.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87r3wf8jy8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87ppbzp9qq.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <5480fea7$0$12992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54810881.5000908@davea.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89.169.229.68 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:V11xx+ECXcvmjwRbcOuFH8Fsjgc= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1417773024 news.xs4all.nl 2857 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36127 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81991 Dave Angel writes: ...many words about sleep()... > Since the OS has no way of knowing whether the thing being waited for > is a thread, another process, a human being, a network operation, or > the end of the world, the interpretation of sleep needs to be the most > conservative one. There are many ways of suspending a process, and > some of them will also suspend the external event. Since the OS > cannot know which case is significant, it has to return control to the > caller at the soonest of the many possible interpretations. That is why there is API (e.g., clock_nanosleep()) that allows us to choose whether we need a relative delay (e.g., kill a subprocess if it hasn't finished in 10 seconds) or an absolute deadline (e.g., these lights should be on 9pm-6am local time). *Both* use cases are valid. -- Akira