Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.etla.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'example:': 0.03; 'cpython': 0.05; 'notice,': 0.07; 'variables': 0.07; 'difference,': 0.09; 'function,': 0.09; 'referenced': 0.09; 'semantic': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; 'stored': 0.12; "'b'": 0.16; 'assignment.': 0.16; 'bytecode': 0.16; 'dictionary,': 0.16; 'modified.': 0.16; 'script,': 0.16; 'modification': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'variable': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; 'mechanism': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'code,': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'parse': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'second': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'to:2**1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; '(which': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'loads': 0.31; 'subject:About': 0.31; 'checking': 0.33; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'functions.': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'performance': 0.37; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.62; 'name': 0.63; 'finally': 0.65; 'regards.': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'within': 0.65; 'improvement.': 0.68; 'url:me': 0.69; 'technically': 0.84; 'toy': 0.84; 'treats': 0.84 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=UODXgUWdiISjMaSRZahvr6pxoWpPUMWblCQ/OpIgPTY=; b=UUerbEkXVfddWqkmKOJIy+yz6heRm8iPiowdX4F4zZtWFbaIcX7J17oxyS229piDln 56zpcjOL3l8pLzPsLwR6kJqb1aq0/JwCxpdd5I9H21JYbaDLOeHElZcbxnbt1jPhFmlx XRCf8O+rAjFc+UwONX8QUjMmJ8ZsmjIqIvpyYQNp+mR6nFF1JfIS9Z/JP/CDMyZuQRdn xf0Mkvwnq8lAYNAls61j99uOge4XvirY2hmK8MWBL+6CW2xsejDXMUIBb7wLLyJf1VgU xJMmPx6FJm0DLEdIH5WCwVwdT3WhtPaMenKv7bmFv0Nbav96plbxtkiE3gtRcQuN8cFo kV1g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlEqNCHv1Ke7NENA9VvQMZrkF0P/04g9sG5Mdayj1vUFCDZF5nTXhVvnSoVARn3xorP5X5J X-Received: by 10.66.222.100 with SMTP id ql4mr23928956pac.123.1417747994131; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 18:53:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 10:53:09 +0800 From: "shiyao.ma" To: LJ , python-list@python.org Subject: Re: About Modifying Globals References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less. X-Info: Find me @introom on Freenode. Have beers! :) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1417748003 news.xs4all.nl 2875 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43078 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81970 On 12/04, LJ wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a quick question regarding the modification of global variables within functions. To illustrate, consider the following toy example: > > a={"1": set()} > b=9 > > def gt(l): > a["1"] = a["1"] | set([l]) > > When calling this last function and checking the a dictionary, I get: > > >>> gt(5) > >>> a > {"1": set([5])} > > > The set in the dictionary was modified. The question is, why isn't it necessary to declare a as global within the gt function, as apposed to a case like > > def gt2(l): > b=b+l > > where I need to declare b as global within the function to avoid: > > UnboundLocalError: local variable 'b' referenced before assignment. Well. To understand the difference, one first has to know the mechanism of CPython. When you have a script, CPython will first parse it, and then generate bytecode representation, and then finally execute it. If you take a look at the bytecode of both your source code, you will notice, that. In the first snippet, there is something like LOAD_NAME, which loads the global name a. However, in the second snippet, there would be a LOAD_FAST, which loads the local name b (which is, technically speaking, stored in the PyFrameObj). The reason Python treats it differently, is, IIUC, for better semantic meaning, and also, for huge performance improvement. Hope that explains. Regards. -- Shiyao Ma http://introo.me