Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'variables': 0.07; 'back.': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'wrote': 0.14; 'language.': 0.14; '"global"': 0.16; '"mark': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'looked': 0.18; 'example': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'skip:n 60': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'easy,': 0.31; 'flying': 0.31; 'front': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'ago': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'late': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'first': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'telling': 0.64; 'love': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'experience.': 0.67; '"real': 0.84; 'received:2': 0.84; 'colleague': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:32:58 +0000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-206-18.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1417656796 news.xs4all.nl 2849 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42520 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81878 On 03/12/2014 23:02, Skybuck Flying wrote: > > > "Mark Lawrence" wrote in message > news:mailman.16534.1417610132.18130.python-list@python.org... > > On 03/12/2014 02:27, Skybuck Flying wrote: >> Excuse is: "bad programming style". >> >> I don't need snot telling me how to program after 20 years of >> programming experience. >> >> This is so far the only thing pissing me off in python. >> >> Now I have to declare "global" in front of these variables every where I >> want to use em: This reminds of of a quote from a colleague some 25 years ago "Real time programming is easy, you just make all the data global". Perhaps you attended the same school? > > " > Another example of a bad workman always blames his tools. > " > > Euhm, so why don't you program with just 0 and 1's then ? ;) > I did with the M6800 in the late 70s. Thankfully maybe 12 years ago I came across Python and it was love at first sight. I've never looked back. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence