Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!bcyclone05.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone05.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.053 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.89; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'gained': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'case.': 0.24; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; "year's": 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'objects': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'described': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'problems': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'heard': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'liked': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'joel': 0.91; 'profession': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=BqdXcxt/39qPJmD86VFzC3njtXz1Sl49YMH5kWc5HC8=; b=bJnyw17OEzwhU05AgTK7SvUf7VSdtT81YLmYDXVlo78Z3NkJ680eAHWAA1vCAfvHn4 wv1M1M2mv6HixhXLDZNIYQHpYmhdxrVQGAu7HNgfECQ0fcTzyTjwUY0NnK8xYm5KQXl7 gZlUbgqwrG8nigo3hm3aCZ8uilaefnXpSs0b/18GBici8PmQZN9sf1DSRp6P/PGxyFiA Qpr+DYjQUhygtLA6AhiV+bYaYtoPC4ZaEpg470Q0GpMIH/J/DDf7g9NuX3Qph8Uu/5H3 wWoDFU8ylNiXSdV400xSyq++BkJK1gHq3czAPkI8GPVDpP0aI0KeWyXvk31L2eR8NrSJ BVsg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.92.2 with SMTP id a2mr11958835qge.51.1417656196842; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:23:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8hIfw.85083$c94.38058@fx21.am4> <547fb194$0$13007$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 20:23:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. From: Joel Goldstick Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1417656206 news.xs4all.nl 2941 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39802 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 4314 X-Received-Body-CRC: 4136447271 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81877 On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >>> Someone with 20 years of programming shouldn't have any problems >>> understanding objects in Python. >> >> Oh if that were only the case. It is amazing how long some people can work >> in a profession and still avoid learning anything new. > > I heard that described as "1 year's experience gained 20 times". > Sadly, some people have gained their first year of experience even > more times than that. > > ChrisA > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list I especially liked the 'phython' reference in his post from 2013! -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com