Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!news.swapon.de!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.031 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'gained': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'case.': 0.24; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; "year's": 0.31; 'objects': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'described': 0.36; 'problems': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'heard': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'profession': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=Ho5YhD1ufF45H7c062V8h3rW45LJsKIcGH3R3uFmzj4=; b=FI21BrtbJZCW+l22hzRSBZXJ4bI2jDwV05noYv/cC7s0MzpKZEnnliIsNIGZbPpsxR 0rez9rVXalnf+Wf6QfSV0OzfX+RrzljXiIVe4T0gj6oSMga8/bc5WuGdt857GpL/qNzz YLtyY1cVK/OeQChUpX1I16h8MbZ52fy6hYLTejA4Ayf0vq2ysHMkAhWpPKup/9EypPwI V8jOW0Mm0xyVNlhrj5XHnf/ZHFlVPohoZEmfiQrHjmlj04MUqcoZclkSRA2L2o50g2TZ oZx7SwQVa3Kwls1/h5RoF8kfobdC2qF/NVhTxofvOOCfc+yJ2TmIPnK5DnT1IzfK6uBF wrog== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.17.79 with SMTP id z76mr7308460ioi.27.1417655404482; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:10:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <547fb194$0$13007$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <8hIfw.85083$c94.38058@fx21.am4> <547fb194$0$13007$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 12:10:04 +1100 Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1417655413 news.xs4all.nl 2967 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33633 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81875 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> Someone with 20 years of programming shouldn't have any problems >> understanding objects in Python. > > Oh if that were only the case. It is amazing how long some people can work > in a profession and still avoid learning anything new. I heard that described as "1 year's experience gained 20 times". Sadly, some people have gained their first year of experience even more times than that. ChrisA