Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.080 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.84; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'ide': 0.09; 'statements': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'implies': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; "haven't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'mention': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'feature': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'dec': 0.30; 'forgot': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'flying': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'objects': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'keyword': 0.36; 'leads': 0.36; 'programming,': 0.36; 'surely': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'heard': 0.39; 'structure': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'address': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'funny': 0.74; 'you:': 0.81; 'bot': 0.84; 'goto': 0.84; 'horrible': 0.84; 'how.': 0.84; 'miss.': 0.84; 'joel': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=xzYQ/g/RJ84zp2IlTNR2cl6We5YlPOutXJonv9fBbH8=; b=LJwBL3T8YeNCk9xlsea1pxN1AGJ6rtBUenXsf6nRgvui3+rCPdCHKuMIZ6fgxkLSMb LOM/wSgURwkHi7o2pNTQaUn4AnyYKbCErQbeGwBKtLNExqa+5F1rq896/vjuHZRGLd9m Hugw4lRbt10U7tB7soHHxKwuDR5MRIopO7hR4vKq0LCkTlXxFTdOmespTz+ZJhOmXz4l 4J9W7IQzkzqsLnrO0agj9snJXFmmP9DoQt2Tjdtce2cZkaB4n77q8d63q7Tl9+ttT7zB 9GNi1akBb/OQTFXmXGGbq94EKiaM2eCuh17ELgOBVUmFXSkF9NF6gjsdjQizJiGiKU4G v2lQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.4.8 with SMTP id 8mr5575540qap.77.1417591054930; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:17:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k329b4yo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <87k329b4yo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 02:17:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. From: Joel Goldstick Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1417591063 news.xs4all.nl 2950 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34574 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81843 troll On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > >> On 12/02/2014 09:32 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote: >>> Some issues I'd like to address to you: >>> >>> 1. Structured programming requires more programming time. >>> 2. Structured programming implies structure which might be less flexible. >>> 3. Python objects require "self" keyword to be used everywhere, and other >>> akwardness wich leads to more typing/programming/writing time. >> >> You forgot to mention that horrible white-space being syntax! Surely >> that is inflexible and awkward! > > Hook... > >>> Lastly I also don't like the module approach in python because the sikuli >>> ide doesn't really support working with multiple files that well. >> >> A poor craftsman blames his tools for his own shortcomings. > > ... line... > >>> Funny thing is these goto statements would be very handy for bot >>> programming, so it's a painfull feature to miss. >> >> Haven't heard that argued in many years. And I don't see how. > > ... and sinker. > > > Marko > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com