Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.146 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.71; '*S*': 0.00; 'cpython': 0.05; 'namespace': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'all?': 0.16; 'enough.': 0.16; 'readability': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'dependent': 0.19; 'first.': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'specify': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'function': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'fri,': 0.33; 'received:74.125.82': 0.34; 'case,': 0.35; 'form.': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'project': 0.37; 'nov': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'received:74.125': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'subject:Can': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'show': 0.63; 'name': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'charset:iso-2022-jp': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'hand.': 0.84; 'skip:\x1b 30': 0.84; 'subject:self': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.87 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PUn4xvjYbNYIa0AJ2/ZfvOU7ZxqFU1TaEYVPj46zFCc=; b=PRxOXDb676C051gz1IWz0aLbjDscnkaXwmietjJTVmtEElSSStPdjxrWeBZtrXtyvp KMGDLqgs3BsDSY0ovEwxmY/Jq8LfMagMYiuXz84V+ZpPNnY1HRJ1SYAOGxwVxo5rGz7f /Ez0BvuOhv4ZYEnbv8hIa18DH4eldScvurFv6k7LGw2Zxh3m1LYLUSy1IeIN0/A0U8Ne QlA8RcakA+1UlrPzJQTJ7EiVz0wyhc7t8aC3UbyOwpOWQjjN1aelYbbcx3FnbFNKVM9i xjIiuJSvp8U2KVQuafV5XdJF2yhk3mC78G39+et5MMitpaWQNanS4l5yW2OAClPXYA6a y0jA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlejtVZA0Q4jI9bJVq58SukNHJMdoUCDm5Z0F5PuLhHoTl05I54MVQG4d3RpGa93IGHgQi1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.90.165 with SMTP id bx5mr23647460wib.15.1417231015674; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 19:16:55 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [143.89.96.87] In-Reply-To: References: <9oif7apuou9fbaqjk0i3l2pq1theuso4un@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:16:55 +0800 Subject: Re: Can you use self in __str__ From: Shiyao Ma To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Python X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1417231400 news.xs4all.nl 2874 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35072 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81709 2014-11-28 13:00 GMT+08:00 Chris Angelico : > On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Shiyao Ma wrote: >> What if it's in the local namespace of a function or method? IDK, try >> to get that thing first. > Sure enough. I will even avoid using "id" as it's dependent on CPython implementation. :) > What if it's in multiple namespaces? What if it's not in any at all? > Your solution is not going to work in the general case, AND it's a bad > idea. > Please don't do this in any code that I'll ever have to > maintain. No way. You will never get my project code in such a form. I am way more peculiar about readability and robustness than most of my other ppl. The point is, the bpate is just for demonstration to show there is a *possible* way to find the name even you didn't specify it at first hand. -- 吾輩は猫である。ホームーページはhttp://introo.me。