Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'board.': 0.05; 'explicitly': 0.05; 'postgresql': 0.07; 'happens.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'behave': 0.16; 're-read': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'statement.': 0.16; 'select': 0.22; 'this?': 0.23; 'specifies': 0.24; 'fairly': 0.24; 'holds': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'statement': 0.30; 'issuing': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; 'running': 0.33; 'table': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'connection': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'transaction': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'shows': 0.36; 'application': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'server': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'changed': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'further': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'between': 0.67; 'close': 0.67; 'frank': 0.68; 'default': 0.69; 'grew': 0.84; 'same,': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: "Frank Millman" Subject: Db transactions and locking Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:24:39 +0200 X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 197.89.14.52 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.4657 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4913 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1417083886 news.xs4all.nl 2945 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37502 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81622 Hi all I just learned something about database transactions, locking, and DB-API 2.0. I wondered why a PostgreSQL statement was hanging. On investigation, it was waiting to acquire a lock. On further investigation, the lock was held by a simple SELECT statement. This surprised me. I got a clue from a message on the PostgreSQL mailing list - "PostgreSQL by default commits between each statement unless you explicitly start a transaction." All Python database adaptors that I have used start a transaction when you open a cursor. I have just re-read DB-API 2.0, and I cannot see anything that specifies this behaviour, but AFAICT this is what happens. I started to monitor the locks that PostgreSQL holds while I was running my application, and sure enough, the lock table grew and grew, even though I was only issuing SELECTs. I use a connection pool, so I never actually close the connections. If I did I am fairly sure the locks would be released. I changed my application to call conn.commit() every time I return a connection back to the pool, and PostgreSQL shows all the locks being released straight away, so I think this has solved the problem. I don't know if Sql Server and sqlite3 behave the same, but I don't think it can do any harm, so I let it apply across the board. Can anyone see any problem with this? Frank Millman