Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'win32': 0.03; 'third- party': 0.04; 'pop': 0.05; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'subject:2.7': 0.09; 'windows': 0.15; '23,': 0.16; 'encodings': 0.16; 'message-id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'possible?': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'supplied': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'items.': 0.19; 'example': 0.22; 'format,': 0.24; 'refers': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; '(which': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'claiming': 0.31; 'font': 0.31; 'such.': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; 'subject:time': 0.33; 'received:66': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'display': 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'subject:one': 0.36; 'received:10': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'from:no real name:2**0': 0.61; 'success': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.63; 'term': 0.63; 'map': 0.64; 'subject:more': 0.64; '2014,': 0.84; 'bitmap': 0.84; 'fonts': 0.84; 'started,': 0.84; 'truetype': 0.84; 'oem': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.us; h= message-id:x-sasl-enc:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=mesmtp; bh=3GZDmSgyz2q5RfA3spGMXfLSzQ8=; b=aC5V Llcd2n0lfaE17dIJMuL1npmgcWbaU6IetNcuc3oItY0nUK4y1KpxYcIB8nvwvjt8 VBFA05G60pinELjbLTYDap7JnQcpRf9R3OlQ5CfOiNHTbgDRjxKSNUqHdUu6mie0 Klu76wSHuvlb5fK6qtfKVQtam3CVlIOLHaow7sE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:x-sasl-enc:from:to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to :references:subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=3GZDmSgyz2q5RfA3spGMXfLS zQ8=; b=KNXP0GTU7HVmpogsgEABFl6U8JgZ5EC3sALLVo2e1ZOWMphrIrHAvcpR r/+XJR/gp1Js/0DkpFnORd3vinSqjyJAJQ33gj/65ppYp6opRtuetsJQcm9TIjH3 NrH2azuzi0fPhDnuAFKZPXRyFSAsSLO1L/ZH9L+baF3lH8afIaw= X-Sasl-Enc: dXAn4xTl9M//1L1ttoMHpvySFr/zan8P1Yvx/3F5jYKY 1416766412 From: random832@fastmail.us To: python-list@python.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-a419c8a0 In-Reply-To: References: <547094a6$0$12984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87y4r348uf.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87mw7j3z2r.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1416707557.2242907.194259261.18485F96@webmail.messagingengine.com> Subject: Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:13:32 -0500 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1416766415 news.xs4all.nl 2834 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50681 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81397 On Sun, Nov 23, 2014, at 11:33, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Why would that be possible? Many truetype fonts only supply glyphs for > single-byte encodings (ISO-Latin-1, for example -- pop up the Windows > character map utility and see what some of the font files contain. With a bitmap font selected, the characters will be immediately replaced with characters present in the font's codepage, and will copy to clipboard as such. With a truetype font (Lucida Console or Consolas) selected, the characters will be displayed as replacement glyphs (box with a question mark in it) if not present in the font, but *will still copy to the clipboard as the original code point* (which you might notice is where we started, with someone claiming success by being able to do so with codepage 65001 selected). And in any case, all characters that *are* in the font will work and display correctly, rather than only those in the OEM codepage. > Heck -- on my current machine, the True Type fonts are all old > third-party items. All the standard fonts are now Open Type. The win32 console's configuration UI refers to opentype fonts as truetype. Opentype fonts can use either truetype or type 1 as the underlying format, and all opentype fonts supplied with windows use truetype. You are being excessively pedantic in objecting to my use of the term "truetype".