Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'mysql,': 0.07; 'postgresql': 0.07; 'apis': 0.09; 'inclusion': 0.09; 'obsolete': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'api': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'continual': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'message-id:@4ax.com': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:dependencies': 0.16; 'subject:import': 0.16; 'system- wide': 0.16; 'library': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'dependent': 0.19; 'server,': 0.19; 'url:home': 0.24; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'related': 0.29; 'database,': 0.30; 'argue': 0.31; 'continually': 0.31; 'level.': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'candidate': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'library.': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'server': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'itself': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'such': 0.63; 'today': 0.64; 'become': 0.64; 'close': 0.67; "today's": 0.70; 'ending': 0.78; 'subject:history': 0.84; 'received:108': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:23:34 -0500 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: <066c46c8-a04d-4489-b15a-b603c1b1818b@googlegroups.com> <8661e407-4472-4208-97c2-f666f6502c67@googlegroups.com> <547080a0$0$12981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <54717eeb$0$12992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <85bnnyz7ir.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-108-79-223-115.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1416759825 news.xs4all.nl 2912 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44915 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:81382 On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:43:40 +1100, Ben Finney declaimed the following: > PostgreSQL is a full-blown system that is itself under continual > development, and its APIs continually change to match. Whatever Python > API for PostgreSQL gets put into the standard library today is likely > to be obsolete long before today's version of Python gets close to > ending support. That makes it a poor candidate for inclusion in the > standard library. > I'd also consider that such a module is highly dependent upon having the related server available. If PostgreSQL access were to become a standard module I'd argue that the library should also include MySQL, Firebird/Interbase, M$ SQL Server, at a minimum. SQLite3, as a file-server database, made sense as the actual database engine is accessed as part of the Python process when invoked -- not something that had to be configured/administered at a system-wide level. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/